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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1349033, member: 112"]I have claimed for many years that NGC and PCGS grading standards changed drastically in 2004. Most people tell me I'm crazy or that I am imagining things, that they have not changed their standard at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>But let me give some examples of actual population numbers for specific series, in specific years. These numbers are a little revealing about the difference between NGC and PCGS too.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lincoln Memorial Cents all dates and mints -</p><p><br /></p><p>2003 pops</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC - had 16 that were graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70.</p><p> - had 7,875 that were graded PF69 DCAM. And 607 that were graded PF70 DCAM.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS - had 99 graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70.</p><p> - had 10,092 graded PF69 DCAM. And 455 that were graded PF70 DCAM.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>April 2005 pops</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC - had 45 graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70.</p><p> - had 20,501 graded PF69 DCAM. And 1,581 graded PF70 DCAM.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS - had 671 graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70.</p><p> - had 45,242 graded PF69 DCAM. And 873 graded PF70 DCAM.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Jefferson nickel (all post war dates) </p><p><br /></p><p>2003 pops</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC - had 0 graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70</p><p> - had 8,740 graded PF69. And 502 graded PF70.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS - had 700 graded MS69. And 72 graded MS70.</p><p> - had 8,899 graded PF69. And 223 graded PF70.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>April 2005 pops</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC - had 0 graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70.</p><p> - had 26,213 graded PF69. And 2,187 graded PF70.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS - had 1,077 graded MS69. And 79 graded MS70.</p><p> - had 67,070 graded PF69. And 928 graded PF70.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now, am I the only person in the world who sees a, rather huge, increase in the number of 69 and 70 graded coins in just 2 years ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Still think they didn't change the grading standards in 2004 ?</p><p><br /></p><p>And it is worth noting that a similar huge increase in pop numbers is also there for Roosevelt dimes, Washington quarters, and Kennedy half dollars. In other words, the increase in pop numbers was across the board, for those coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>And - these numbers were also published in Coin World. So they are documented, I did not just make them up. </p><p><br /></p><p>I also have documented population numbers from around the same time (2003) on a few other series of coins, in various grades. And a check of those numbers also shows a huge increase in the higher grades.</p><p><br /></p><p>My imagination ? I don't think so <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1349033, member: 112"]I have claimed for many years that NGC and PCGS grading standards changed drastically in 2004. Most people tell me I'm crazy or that I am imagining things, that they have not changed their standard at all. But let me give some examples of actual population numbers for specific series, in specific years. These numbers are a little revealing about the difference between NGC and PCGS too. Lincoln Memorial Cents all dates and mints - 2003 pops NGC - had 16 that were graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70. - had 7,875 that were graded PF69 DCAM. And 607 that were graded PF70 DCAM. PCGS - had 99 graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70. - had 10,092 graded PF69 DCAM. And 455 that were graded PF70 DCAM. April 2005 pops NGC - had 45 graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70. - had 20,501 graded PF69 DCAM. And 1,581 graded PF70 DCAM. PCGS - had 671 graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70. - had 45,242 graded PF69 DCAM. And 873 graded PF70 DCAM. Jefferson nickel (all post war dates) 2003 pops NGC - had 0 graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70 - had 8,740 graded PF69. And 502 graded PF70. PCGS - had 700 graded MS69. And 72 graded MS70. - had 8,899 graded PF69. And 223 graded PF70. April 2005 pops NGC - had 0 graded MS69. And 0 graded MS70. - had 26,213 graded PF69. And 2,187 graded PF70. PCGS - had 1,077 graded MS69. And 79 graded MS70. - had 67,070 graded PF69. And 928 graded PF70. Now, am I the only person in the world who sees a, rather huge, increase in the number of 69 and 70 graded coins in just 2 years ? Still think they didn't change the grading standards in 2004 ? And it is worth noting that a similar huge increase in pop numbers is also there for Roosevelt dimes, Washington quarters, and Kennedy half dollars. In other words, the increase in pop numbers was across the board, for those coins. And - these numbers were also published in Coin World. So they are documented, I did not just make them up. I also have documented population numbers from around the same time (2003) on a few other series of coins, in various grades. And a check of those numbers also shows a huge increase in the higher grades. My imagination ? I don't think so ;)[/QUOTE]
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