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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;beef1020, post: 3003954, member: 24544&quot;]I&#039;ll start with a suggestion that you will find very helpful if you decide to follow the advice.&nbsp; Instead of posting that people still haven&#039;t answered your questions, just ask the question again.&nbsp; At this point I sincerely do not know what your question is.</p><p><br /></p><p>In regards to the coins you have posted, you have received many answers, they are MD and not the result of a doubled die.</p><p><br /></p><p>To your question about &#039;shift&#039; versus &#039;rotation&#039;, and the nice images you have provided, the shift is impossible on a coin.&nbsp; The only thing that can ever happen is the rotation.&nbsp; Now, the difficult part is that the rotation can occur in two different and distinct ways, but both ways leave very similar results on coins.&nbsp; Again, I would ask that you go read this post for a detailed explanation, then come back and post specific questions to anything you don&#039;t understand:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-elusive-69-s-i-found-in-circulation.308903/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-elusive-69-s-i-found-in-circulation.308903/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-elusive-69-s-i-found-in-circulation.308903/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, to the point about Linconl&#039;s nose not having doubling on the 69-s DDO1, that&#039;s not exactly true.&nbsp; The doubling comes from the hub being pressed into the die twice with a small rotational difference between the pressings.&nbsp; This small rotational difference leads to larger linear separation on device elements further from the center, and smaller linear separation on elements closer to the center.&nbsp; This can be see in the words LIBERTY, and in the date.&nbsp; The 1 in the date has less separation than the 9.&nbsp; Likewise, the L in LIBERTY has more seperation than the Y.&nbsp; Again, this also accounts for the exact same linear separation on all words in IN GOD WE TRUST, they are equidistant from the axis of hub rotation.&nbsp; You still with me?&nbsp; The nose is close to the hub axis, so the doubling is just too small to see, and is obstructed by the multiple strikes in a way that letters and numbers aren&#039;t.&nbsp; So it&#039;s not that the nose isn&#039;t doubled, it&#039;s just that the doubling is not visible.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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