Have I just found myself a 1969-S DDO?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Mr. Waggers, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    I wish People would concentrate their efforts into providing pertinent answers instead of making insolent and unconstructive comments.
     
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  3. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    You got answers. You didn't like the answers. You've acted like a clown.
     
  4. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    No debate, your coin is a very minor MD coin, no value over face value. PERIOD.
    Reed and Sparkles the Unicorn.
     
  5. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    I don't think you understand my question.
     
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  6. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    What do you mean " I didn't like the answers". Do you read minds, too?
     
  7. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    I don't think you understand my question. Your answer is not constructive and does not provide any knowledgeable input anyway.
     
  8. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    I think it takes more than one clown to make it a circus.
     
  9. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Since you are an error expert what’s this one:
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    Enlighten me as I found this in a bag of 7500 circulated cents. I know what it is.......do you?
    Reed and Sparkles and the clowns
     
  10. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    Machine doubling on the reverse and doubled die on the obverse.
    It is a 1974-D DDO-001, and the value is around 20 bucks in a VF grade.
     
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  11. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    I don't think you understand my question.
     
  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    OK.. But you stated the letter T was doubled which I stated it looks like it took a hit. I really don't understand your comments then. You say it's doubled then you say you thought you had a doubled die. So I will not interfere any longer. I was just trying to help.
     
  13. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    You came here to argue and not to learn. You have acted like a clown but the members have put up with you. It was clear from the start, based on your images that your coin was not a DDO. Yet you argue. Everything you have ask has been answered.
     
  14. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    I didn't state, but suggested.
     
  15. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    I agree with you entirely except that I am not here to argue. I do have the right to defend myself, tho.
     
  16. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    And you've come to this conclusion based upon what, exactly?
     
  17. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    Machine doubling on the reverse and doubled die on the obverse.
    It is a 1974-D DDO-001, and the value is around 20 bucks in a VF grade.

    What do you think of this one? Photo on 2-22-18 at 11.00.jpg
     
  18. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    How about this one?
    How about this one? ( It is not the same coin: WATCH THE NOSE AS THE HUB ROTATES) Photo on 2-22-18 at 11.06.jpg
     
  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna


    Oh, kind of like this pile-o-dung?

    You're not the first person to come here for the sole purpose of playing games, but if you don't drop the nonsense, I'm going to guess you won't last long, just like many others before you.

    If you have any desire to seriously engage and/or learn, I respectfully urge you to do so now and before this thread heads any further down the gutter.
     
  20. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Again.... exactly what have you based this conclusion upon?

    I've no desire to play deflective games with you.
     
  21. Mr. Waggers

    Mr. Waggers Member

    1) First, look at the difference between the letters when offsetting two circles (coins are like circles) in a NE direction compared to what we get when rotating the 2 circles keeping them centered. Can you see that "ROTATION" is what we do see on coins?

    -NUMBER ONE: Doubled-dies errors occur due to a rotation of the dies hubs. They are not misaligned. In fact, they NEED to be perfectly centered for this effect to occur, or it would result in the effect shown in the "SHIFT" illustration.

    2) We are taught that Lincoln's profile isn't doubled on genuine 1969-S doubled-die coins. It doesn't make sense. Look at the nose and chin on the "ROTATION" sketch, as the coin rotates.
    If the letters were died separately, it would be ok to consider the same theory we are taught about the S-Mintmark, but no doubling on the profile if dyed concurrently in the process with the rest is impossible. If one the coin's die element rotates, so do all others. Look at the profiles on the two coins below, and compare them to the "rotation" sketch as a guideline. You can see how one coin demonstrates an example of " rotation" by looking at their noses.

    -NUMBER TWO: The 1969-S doubled-die is not as showy as the infamous one, of which you can see a picture, and sold for thousands if you asked Google. Untitled 14_0001.jpg Photo on 2-22-18 at 11.00.jpg Photo on 2-22-18 at 11.06.jpg
     
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