Have had this coin for over 30 years and still know almost nothing about it.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by bcuda, Nov 22, 2020.

  1. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    I found this metal detecting in Spain over 30 years ago and still know almost nothing about it. About all I know is it is a coin from the Moors (Islamic) in Spain it is possibly a billon Dirham and weighs 3.6 grams and 24mm.
    Can anyone help me attributing it ?

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    Here is a link to Coinweek with a write up on the Moors.

    al-Andalus: Coinage of Islamic Spain (coinweek.com)
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2020
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  3. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    I don't know more about the coin than you do but I will say I like the coin in its partially-cleaned condition. It has very nice patina and eye appeal with just the right amount of soil. As such, I hope you will keep the coin as-is in its current state.
     
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  4. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Calligraphy is not the prettiest unfortunately (and this is far west from my comfort zone). On the right in the center is the Islamic declaration of faith. From what i can make out of the left center text i think this coin was issued in the name of al-mahdi Muhammad of the Hammudids of Malaga.
     
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  5. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Thank you for taking the time to help me out on this @THCoins
    I found one like what you described its legends look like they might match.
    Here is a pic of it.

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    Muhammad Ibn Idris AL-MAHDI.
    Hammudids (Taifa of Málaga)
    Dirham.
    AH 441
    Al-Andalus mint.
    Cat: vives 861 - Prieto 104b
    Bronze (Æ) 3,2g - 24mm.
     
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  6. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Yes, though not the same type, it surely is the same ruler.
     
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  7. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @bcuda, that's a Really impressive example. Yep, it's as billon dirham as anyone needs. Haven't tried researching it (knowing exactly Zero Arabic, I have to 'wing it'), but the level of debasement strongly suggests that it's a later issue of one of the taifas (post-Caliphate), 11th c. CE, likely a later one, in range of the period of, for instance, El Cid.
    ......Gosh Golly, I really love it....
    For researching Andalusian coins without the benefit of Arabic, the best help I've gotten is from this site: http://www.andalustonegawa.50g.com/ It routinely cites two of the better references, has pretty good pictures, and is remarkably comprehensive for what it is.
     
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Really, know nuttin’ ‘bout, but what a fun find!
     
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