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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 8209481, member: 105098"]the alibaba ones are replicas and made in copper, some have a tiny "copy" on them, some don't, but it's not hard to remove the "copy" because its so small.</p><p><br /></p><p>it doesn't need to be a copper plated steel cent, it doesn't need to be a changed date. there's plenty of fakes being cranked out in various formats that unless it's graded, just consider it counterfeit.</p><p><br /></p><p>and that includes the ones offered on Etsy or facebook. you won't find the actual coin at any of these places, and you won't find one in your change either. what you will find is the fake ones possibly that's about it.</p><p><br /></p><p>At this point there really isn't anything to discuss, you were asked for clear pictures of the coin front and back, you come back again with dark out of focus pictures. The magnet doesn't matter, your scale doesn't matter, there's a shop in china cranking out hundreds of thousands of replicas, right weight, right composition, but marked and not marked as copys as they should be, and easy to remove the marking even if it was marked.</p><p><br /></p><p>if you want it actually reviewed by us further, bright, in focus pictures. if you won't take the opinions, then what are you waiting for, send it for grading.</p><p><br /></p><p>NOBODY with a brain would buy it if offered for sale without it being authenticated first, that's for sure. and at this point nobody here is going to be convinced that the one you've shown is even remotely legitimate off the evidence provided.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just being straight with ya partner. May be a little harsh, but that's reality.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 8209481, member: 105098"]the alibaba ones are replicas and made in copper, some have a tiny "copy" on them, some don't, but it's not hard to remove the "copy" because its so small. it doesn't need to be a copper plated steel cent, it doesn't need to be a changed date. there's plenty of fakes being cranked out in various formats that unless it's graded, just consider it counterfeit. and that includes the ones offered on Etsy or facebook. you won't find the actual coin at any of these places, and you won't find one in your change either. what you will find is the fake ones possibly that's about it. At this point there really isn't anything to discuss, you were asked for clear pictures of the coin front and back, you come back again with dark out of focus pictures. The magnet doesn't matter, your scale doesn't matter, there's a shop in china cranking out hundreds of thousands of replicas, right weight, right composition, but marked and not marked as copys as they should be, and easy to remove the marking even if it was marked. if you want it actually reviewed by us further, bright, in focus pictures. if you won't take the opinions, then what are you waiting for, send it for grading. NOBODY with a brain would buy it if offered for sale without it being authenticated first, that's for sure. and at this point nobody here is going to be convinced that the one you've shown is even remotely legitimate off the evidence provided. Just being straight with ya partner. May be a little harsh, but that's reality.[/QUOTE]
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