Has this 1890 Morgan been cleaned?

Any pointers on how one can tell for sure when it comes to borderline cleaned coins would be appreciated. Not saying this is borderline

 

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Looks like it some areas almost appear to be dissolved and disturbed metal by an acidic reaction.Especially the reverse on the eagle.

 

Bummer. Is it the darker areas in the fields that tells you that? Also if one were to send it in to be graded would it return as cleaned?

 

Almost hard to tell based op Pics provided , can you provide close-up ?

 

These work? Or is the lighting not good enough? Took these a while ago with my microscope

 

Also note no luster and the weak mushy design details,its not an MS coin high AU,details at best my opinion.

 

Seems pretty harsh, but I appreciate the insight and respect your opinion

 

Wait for some other opinions.

 

It has been cleaned...imho

 

I don't know ,I kind of like it . Maybe it's just me .

 

The surfaces have an etched look to them as if the coin was dipped for too long. Having said that, the 1890-P dollar tends to come with muted luster which might be a contributing factor to the overall look of the piece.

It is a decent album coin, but it would not be worth paying for grading fees.

 

@Kevin Farley, does the light just bounce straight back at you? Or when you tilt it does the light move, spin around, do a little dance for you? There's your first sign it's cleaned, when the light just sits there, motionless, like it's dead.

 

decent video about cleaned coins, really gets into it at about 3:00 mark. Morgan dollar at 6:30.

 

Thanks for posting the video, it's helps me seeing the side-by-side comparison between cleaned and uncleaned.

 

Short answer: Yes...to some gentle degree IMO. The faded or muted luster...what's left...does not appear natural or "minty" as from the mint.

 

It has multiple pivot points for cartwheeling

 

the catch is the turning in my opinion, although I wouldn't do it like he does haahhaha!.

Rotating it under light should highlight trouble spots with the reflectivity of the surface.

As far as cleaning, that's a lot of toning and schmuts in the 8 and 9 what I'd expect to see around the stars in her hair and around other lettering also,,,, and between denticles, hard to believe it only collected right there on the coin in my opinion. Could be the lighting as to why it looks flat and grey So I'll reserve the opinion, but I don't think it was "harshly cleaned". I do suspect it was dipped and worked on though to clean it up, maybe a dip and q-tip clean up job, but the markings I think could be just that, some rub and contact marks, and it still falls into low mint state and grade out.

Is this coin 1890-P VAM-1I?

 

I think it looks overdipped, either left in the dip too long, or dipped too many times over the years.

 

Appears to be

 

Looks dipped, but not a harsh cleaning.