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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2230480, member: 112"]There could be any number of reasons, but I suspect the chief among them would be that they just don't agree with the current prices being reported in the CDN. In other words they are thinking that the coins are worth more than what the CDN says they are worth.</p><p><br /></p><p>But like I said the CDN is real, it merely reports what dealers all over the country are offering to buy, or sell, a given coin in a given grade at a given point in time, with the that point in time being the present week.</p><p><br /></p><p>Kinda like this for example, (and no I don't know that these are the real numbers because I didn't take the time to look them up). A dealer looks at the CDN and sees that a '82-CC Morgan in 63 is worth $175. He then says, oh bull, that coin is worth at least $225. The CDN is a bunch of hogwash. But he's saying that because he's trying to sell his examples of that coin, in that grade, for that amount. But nobody will pay it because the CDN says it's worth $50 less than that. So his only recourse is to badmouth the CDN and claim the numbers are no good in order to validate himself.</p><p><br /></p><p>To understand it you have to understand how the market works. A lot of folks think that the coin market is mostly composed of sales and purchases primarily between dealers and private individuals (collectors). But nothing could be further from the truth. </p><p><br /></p><p>Sales and purchases between dealers and individuals only comprise about 20% of the coin market. The other 80% is sales and purchases between dealers. That's why the given value of any given coin at any given point in time is determined by what a dealer will sell one for, or pay for one. </p><p><br /></p><p>What some bidiot pays for a coin on ebay doesn't have anything to do with the real, the true value of any coin. It never has and it never will. But the average collector won't believe that because he doesn't want to believe it. He wants his coins to be worth more. So he thinks they are because somebody who doesn't have a clue about the coin market pays too much for them on ebay. While the whole time he could go and buy the same coin, same grade, for less money from a dealer. And often a good bit less.</p><p><br /></p><p>You know how I've talked about Heritage, Heritage is a dealer, the biggest dealer. They sell almost a billion dollars worth of coins a year, every year. And yeah that's with a B. And that's just 1 dealer. And a whole lot of those coins sold by them end up being sold again on ebay for more money. </p><p><br /></p><p>It's not rocket science, it doesn't take a genius to figure things out to understand the coin market. You just have to know a little bit, open your eyes, and actually see what is going on.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2230480, member: 112"]There could be any number of reasons, but I suspect the chief among them would be that they just don't agree with the current prices being reported in the CDN. In other words they are thinking that the coins are worth more than what the CDN says they are worth. But like I said the CDN is real, it merely reports what dealers all over the country are offering to buy, or sell, a given coin in a given grade at a given point in time, with the that point in time being the present week. Kinda like this for example, (and no I don't know that these are the real numbers because I didn't take the time to look them up). A dealer looks at the CDN and sees that a '82-CC Morgan in 63 is worth $175. He then says, oh bull, that coin is worth at least $225. The CDN is a bunch of hogwash. But he's saying that because he's trying to sell his examples of that coin, in that grade, for that amount. But nobody will pay it because the CDN says it's worth $50 less than that. So his only recourse is to badmouth the CDN and claim the numbers are no good in order to validate himself. To understand it you have to understand how the market works. A lot of folks think that the coin market is mostly composed of sales and purchases primarily between dealers and private individuals (collectors). But nothing could be further from the truth. Sales and purchases between dealers and individuals only comprise about 20% of the coin market. The other 80% is sales and purchases between dealers. That's why the given value of any given coin at any given point in time is determined by what a dealer will sell one for, or pay for one. What some bidiot pays for a coin on ebay doesn't have anything to do with the real, the true value of any coin. It never has and it never will. But the average collector won't believe that because he doesn't want to believe it. He wants his coins to be worth more. So he thinks they are because somebody who doesn't have a clue about the coin market pays too much for them on ebay. While the whole time he could go and buy the same coin, same grade, for less money from a dealer. And often a good bit less. You know how I've talked about Heritage, Heritage is a dealer, the biggest dealer. They sell almost a billion dollars worth of coins a year, every year. And yeah that's with a B. And that's just 1 dealer. And a whole lot of those coins sold by them end up being sold again on ebay for more money. It's not rocket science, it doesn't take a genius to figure things out to understand the coin market. You just have to know a little bit, open your eyes, and actually see what is going on.[/QUOTE]
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