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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2690108, member: 112&quot;]The earliest documented examples that I have been able to find of NGC and PCGS both publicly admitting that they dipped coins comes from 1995. And it stands to reason that if they admitted it then, that they had been doing it before then for at least some period of time.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reason I mention this is because cleaning coins, conservation if it makes you feel better to use a euphemism, is not something new. It has been going on for centuries. And the TPGs have been doing it since not too long after their inception. But it has only been in recent years that they made a business of it.</p><p><br /></p><p>To answer the questions at hand I have never submitted a coin to anybody for &quot;conservation&quot;. But I&#039;ll readily admit that there are many who are qualified to do it, both within and outside of the TPGs.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for a TPG doing it without permission, over the years I have read many reports of this happening. Reports made by people I trust and people qualified to recognize that it had been done. (And granted, they were all before the TPGs started their current business of doing so.) Many of these reports were positive, others were not. But that is to be expected because <u>nobody</u> ever knows what the outcome of cleaning a coin will be. And for those cases where it was not positive, and it was not done with permission, I cannot recall a single case of any restitution ever being made. </p><p><br /></p><p>And of course if a coin is submitted to a TPG to be &quot;conserved&quot; there is never any guarantee of the outcome. You submit a coin and take your chances. They do however evaluate the coins first, and that&#039;s the hard part. The actual cleaning of a coin is fairly straightforward and pretty simple for those with the experience. But the evaluation of which ones are good candidates and which ones are not, that is always a crapshoot - always ![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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