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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1246344, member: 112"]You don't understand what happened. Jello's coin was in an MS60 slab. Now that right there tells you that the coin has issues, not necessarily problems, but something is already holding the coin down to the lowest MS grade there is. Jello thought the spot on the obv was what was holding the grade down, so he sent it in to NCS hoping that if they could conserve the coin and remove the spot, that the coin would subsequently grade higher.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, when the NCS process removed the spot it also removed additional artificial toning that had been added to the coin before Jello ever bought it. What that artificial toning was doing was covering up previous harsh cleaning, and once the AT was removed that harsh cleaning became visible. </p><p><br /></p><p>THAT'S why the coin was then placed in a details holder - because of what was done to the coin before Jello ever bought it. NCS did not harm the coin in any way, they merely made previous harm visible once again.</p><p><br /></p><p>One of the primary reasons that any coin is ever artificially toned is so that toning can cover up problems that the coin may have, thus allowing that coin to be sold for more than it is worth. Even natural toning is known to cover up a multitude of problems, and that is the risk you take when buying any toned coin - you don't know what might be hidden under that toning.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>On that point you are correct, there are very few coins that should ever be submitted to NCS. Problem is, most collectors don't know this. Even fewer collectors have the ability and knowledge needed to identify the coins that should or should not be submitted to NCS. </p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Fair enough, but when that coin is worth all of $2.00 to begin with - what then ?</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>OK, you say the coin was known to have PVC on it - but known by whom ? You said it was slabbed by PCGS, but neither PCGS nor NGC will slab any coin that has PVC on it. They won't even put them in Genuine or Details holders. So apparently both PCGS and NCS did not agree that there was any PVC on the coin at all. Apparently, it was only toning on the coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1246344, member: 112"]You don't understand what happened. Jello's coin was in an MS60 slab. Now that right there tells you that the coin has issues, not necessarily problems, but something is already holding the coin down to the lowest MS grade there is. Jello thought the spot on the obv was what was holding the grade down, so he sent it in to NCS hoping that if they could conserve the coin and remove the spot, that the coin would subsequently grade higher. However, when the NCS process removed the spot it also removed additional artificial toning that had been added to the coin before Jello ever bought it. What that artificial toning was doing was covering up previous harsh cleaning, and once the AT was removed that harsh cleaning became visible. THAT'S why the coin was then placed in a details holder - because of what was done to the coin before Jello ever bought it. NCS did not harm the coin in any way, they merely made previous harm visible once again. One of the primary reasons that any coin is ever artificially toned is so that toning can cover up problems that the coin may have, thus allowing that coin to be sold for more than it is worth. Even natural toning is known to cover up a multitude of problems, and that is the risk you take when buying any toned coin - you don't know what might be hidden under that toning. On that point you are correct, there are very few coins that should ever be submitted to NCS. Problem is, most collectors don't know this. Even fewer collectors have the ability and knowledge needed to identify the coins that should or should not be submitted to NCS. Fair enough, but when that coin is worth all of $2.00 to begin with - what then ? OK, you say the coin was known to have PVC on it - but known by whom ? You said it was slabbed by PCGS, but neither PCGS nor NGC will slab any coin that has PVC on it. They won't even put them in Genuine or Details holders. So apparently both PCGS and NCS did not agree that there was any PVC on the coin at all. Apparently, it was only toning on the coin.[/QUOTE]
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