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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;krispy, post: 1373442, member: 19065&quot;]It&#039;s never going to be a black/white answer.&nbsp; It ultimately depends on the individual&#039;s desire for how much to pay, and <i>beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder</i>. </p><p><br /></p><p>There is of course the market sensibilities to consider as well. What is now unacceptable may change at a later time, <i>if </i>the hobby ever becomes more accepting of professional paper conservation the way that NCS are regarded for conserving coins, then cleaning may be more wide spread. Of course it may always prove to be that cleaned coins and notes just take their place in the price scale for the grade given, but that doesn&#039;t mean the item will not carry a premium successfully. Many cannot fathom buying a cleaned note, that is, if they know it has been cleaned. Many people, collectors too, may not even be skilled enough to see the results of professional conservation without being told, i.e. noted on a TPG holder that it was cleaned. The specific note one is considering could indeed fetch more if it were cleaned, graded and &quot;altered&quot; because some notes are rare and some factors can be overlooked and a premium earned, even if it&#039;s less when compared to an un-altered, problem free (never having a mark such as a rust stain to be removed) note. A common note with a problem removed and noted on a holder does have limited potential for a premium, but may still earn more than if it problem were not removed. It depends on the quality of the restoration. Some restorations are damaging, others are undetectible. </p><p><br /></p><p>The &#039;problem&#039; with many notes and the reason they are marked on holders, is that clean was done by unskilled conservators who damaged (altered) the paper surface or harmed the note by their process. This then is equal to a negative towards the note, and when most people see &#039;apparent&#039; or &#039;altered&#039; they only see the negatives, of which there are probably many many many more that there are professionally restored notes which also carry the same notations. One needs to know the difference to asses the value, even within cleanings, those by pros vs. those by unprofessional restorers. </p><p><br /></p><p>These are just some of the things I would consider on a case by case scenario. A hypothetical scenario cannot be used to establish an answer in this area. It&#039;s very subjective and as I said, comes down to the individual.... but we should all remember to buy the note, not just what it says on the holder.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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