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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;sunflower, post: 830308, member: 23219&quot;]:smile</p><p>Yes indeed, - extra credits you. Thank you so much. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I located a dictionary for various scripts of the old nations, but needed to spend more time, and document my search better. I tend to review the same stuff - it is hard to keep organized with something like this. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I will retrieve my coins soon and go through your list. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>At first glance for the larger one: The ones titled &quot;New Gold Rumi Issues&quot; seemed to fit best. (A long time ago, I took up learning to write and speak Arabic - I did not progress to being fluent. I have since lost any real ability to converse in conversational Arabic).</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So the large one sort of fits here: (Lily yes, but did not recognize a rose).&nbsp; Also, this one appears extra clean for an old relic.&nbsp; </p><p>NEW GOLD RUMI ISSUES</p><p>Similar to the Rumi series, except the wavy borders are</p><p>replaced by an inscription containing the name and titles of</p><p>Mahmud II.</p><p>----BUT---</p><p>GOLD HAYRIYE ISSUES (your note for the small one caught my attention because of the &quot;ovals and branches.&quot;</p><p>&nbsp;----</p><p>As for the small one: The reverse appears to have 4 roses around an ornate one line inscription. The obverse appears to have up to a four line inscription, with a date at the bottom with a floral image directily below. The wreathe/floral vine around the center is very pretty. Overall,this smaller coin is dirty.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>From you notes, the most similar for the small one might be: </p><p>GOLD CEDID MAHMUDIYE ISSUES</p><p>This type is similar to the Hayriye, but with ovals of inscriptions and branches replaced by a wreath design.</p><p>KM# 644 1/2 CEDID MAHMUDIYE</p><p>Gold Note: Weight varies: 0.70-0.80 grams.</p><p>----</p><p>Thank you again.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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