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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;TheRed, post: 3663629, member: 87080&quot;]These are two very nice pennies you found [USER=104626]@1827jim[/USER] .&nbsp; Your short cross penny still has plenty of detail on the obverse and reverse and is identifiable.&nbsp; The legend on the reverse reads +STIVENE ON LVN.&nbsp; Our dear moneyer Stivene minted coins in London for both Richard and John in classes II thru IV.&nbsp; Based on the large number of small curls for hair on the bust the penny is from Class II which was minted in the period 1189-1194.&nbsp; So, you have a penny of Richard I Coeur de Lion from a lies than common coinage class.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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