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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;foundinrolls, post: 682166, member: 4350&quot;]Although Alan&#039;s article is ten years old his mention of machine doubling being damage is accurate.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Some of his thoughts go back forty years since he states that he was studying these for 30 years nearly ten years ago so some of what is in there is outmoded.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Since then people like Mike Diamond have added to the ways that machine doubling damage can occur as a coin is struck.&nbsp; While Alan&#039;s scenario is one of them.&nbsp; Damage does indeed happen as the die is retracting from the struck coin.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Logically,&nbsp; the damage has to occur during the strike as if it were after the strike,&nbsp; the die could not move the metal around anymore.&nbsp; &quot;During the strike&quot;&nbsp; includes any portion of the strike while the die is still in contact with the coin.&nbsp; So to suggest that it happens post-strike is impossible.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>In any case,&nbsp; if you read both articles by Alan and by Billy,&nbsp; they call it damage as do most of the rest of us out in the die variety and error trenches. </p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Bill[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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