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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1640644, member: 19463"]I apologize but now I think I will change teams. I'll now say the OP coin is Trajan. Here is the evidence:</p><p><a href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?search=nilus+hippo&view_mode=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ol=1&sort=&c=&a=&l=#0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?search=nilus+hippo&view_mode=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ol=1&sort=&c=&a=&l=#0" rel="nofollow">http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?search=nilus+hippo&view_mode=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ol=1&sort=&c=&a=&l=#0</a></p><p><br /></p><p>These two coins have enough legend that they are identifiable with greater certainty although neither is a nice coin. The second one is clearly Hadrian with his formal name Traianus Hadrianus split left and right. Remember that Greek does not write the letter H as we know it (they use that shape for Eta, the long A sound) so the first legend right of the portrait is alpha delta rho. </p><p><br /></p><p>Trajan, however, used a lot of titles following his name so the first part of of the right side legend on the top acsearch coin reads rho M delta AK. This continues the missing left legend picking up in the middle of the abbreviation GERM (defeater of the Germans) followed by DAK (defeater of the Dacians). Going back to the trace of legend on the OP coin there is no way that the legend reads ADP but PMDAK can be seen. Trajan. The OP coin is year 20 and the acsearch is year 19 showing that Trajan used this type late in his reign. The Hadrian coin shown on acsearch is weak on the date but the seller's guess was LB or year two (early in the reign). These are coins with the Hippo. The wonderful coin icerain posted has the revised type with crocodile and year 13. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now for other possibly bad advice I gave: The website acsearch has a lot of coins of the crocodile version but only two come up when you search Nilus and hippo. Those are both ugly coins compared to the decently surfaced OP coin. The acsearch coins show less wear and poor surfaces. I'd rather own the OP coin. Neither listing carries a price but it seems that the hippo is a more scarce version and not as easily available as the crocodile which I pointed out was common and available in better shape. Is the OP coin worth more? It is not to me because, as I mentioned, I don't like coins that are hard to ID with certainty. It may be to someone looking for the hippo type. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is ancient numismatics as I know it. The blind lead the blind. Eventually we may stumble forward to the right answer but moving at all caries a risk of tripping and falling flat on our faces. There are expensive, out of print books that might make this easier but I do not own the ones for this particular specialty. There are experts on these coins who would see this immediately but they apparently don't read this list or chose to sit back and chuckle as I wipe the mud of error from my face.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1640644, member: 19463"]I apologize but now I think I will change teams. I'll now say the OP coin is Trajan. Here is the evidence: [URL]http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?search=nilus+hippo&view_mode=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ol=1&sort=&c=&a=&l=#0[/URL] These two coins have enough legend that they are identifiable with greater certainty although neither is a nice coin. The second one is clearly Hadrian with his formal name Traianus Hadrianus split left and right. Remember that Greek does not write the letter H as we know it (they use that shape for Eta, the long A sound) so the first legend right of the portrait is alpha delta rho. Trajan, however, used a lot of titles following his name so the first part of of the right side legend on the top acsearch coin reads rho M delta AK. This continues the missing left legend picking up in the middle of the abbreviation GERM (defeater of the Germans) followed by DAK (defeater of the Dacians). Going back to the trace of legend on the OP coin there is no way that the legend reads ADP but PMDAK can be seen. Trajan. The OP coin is year 20 and the acsearch is year 19 showing that Trajan used this type late in his reign. The Hadrian coin shown on acsearch is weak on the date but the seller's guess was LB or year two (early in the reign). These are coins with the Hippo. The wonderful coin icerain posted has the revised type with crocodile and year 13. Now for other possibly bad advice I gave: The website acsearch has a lot of coins of the crocodile version but only two come up when you search Nilus and hippo. Those are both ugly coins compared to the decently surfaced OP coin. The acsearch coins show less wear and poor surfaces. I'd rather own the OP coin. Neither listing carries a price but it seems that the hippo is a more scarce version and not as easily available as the crocodile which I pointed out was common and available in better shape. Is the OP coin worth more? It is not to me because, as I mentioned, I don't like coins that are hard to ID with certainty. It may be to someone looking for the hippo type. This is ancient numismatics as I know it. The blind lead the blind. Eventually we may stumble forward to the right answer but moving at all caries a risk of tripping and falling flat on our faces. There are expensive, out of print books that might make this easier but I do not own the ones for this particular specialty. There are experts on these coins who would see this immediately but they apparently don't read this list or chose to sit back and chuckle as I wipe the mud of error from my face.[/QUOTE]
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