Hadrian. Antioch sestertius?

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  1. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    Does anyone here collect SC coins from Antioch, Seleucis and Pieria? Recently I've been paying more attention to them and I managed to buy a fairly decent coin weighing 20 g. (does anyone have a heavier one of this type?) Would it be the provincial equivalent of a sesterce?

    Syria, Antioch, Seleucis and Pieria. Hadrian.
    Obverse: ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙϹ Θ ΤΡ Π ΥΙ Θ ΝΕΡ ΥΙⲰ ΤΡ ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟϹ ϹΕΒΑϹ (Imperator Caesar divi Traiani Parthicus filius divi Nervae nepos Traianus Hadrianus Augustus). Laureate and cuirassed bust of Hadrian, right, with paludamentum, seen from front. Revers: SC in laurel wreath, beneath: Ι.

    RPC 3703
    Please share your coins from syrian type of SC.

    Robert Kh.
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  3. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Very nice coin.... I like the portrait for sure!

    I have a couple..

    Otho, Ruled Jan 15-Apr 16, 69 AD
    AE28, Syria, Antioch Mint
    : CAE AVG IMP M OTHO, laureate head right.
    Reverse: Large SC within laurel wreath of eight leaves, fastened at top with pellet.

    Galba, AE23, Syria, Antioch Mint
    : [IMP SER GALBA] CAE AVG, laureate head right.
    Reverse: Large SC within laurel wreath of eight leaves, fastened at top with pellet, between inner circle and outer dotted border
  4. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Great coin - did you notice it has a countermark on the obverse? This is the laurel branch in rectangle type - I have one on a Trajan SC from Antioch - interesting to see that the countermark was placed in the same place on both coins - my guess is this is an "official" countermark, with care being taken not to deface the emperor's face:

    Trajan/Hadrian Æ 27
    (c. 102-114 A.D. / cm see note)
    Syria, Seleucis & Pieria Antiochia ad Orontem

    [ΑΥΤΟΚΡ] ΚΑΙϹ ΝΕΡ ΤΡΑΙΑ[ΝΟϹ] ϹΕΒ[ΓΕΡΜ ΔΑΚ] laureate head left / SC within
    laurel wreath, BI below.
    RPC III, 3595; McAlee 487(m).
    (12.98 grams / 27 x 25 mm)
    eBay Nov. 2020
    Countermark Notes: Laurel branch incuse in 5 x 4 mm rectangle, Howgego 378.
    According to Howgego, the laurel branch countermark appears as an undertype on a Bar Kochba bronze, indicating that it was applied prior to 132-135 AD.
  5. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    I just have the pics but I don't have the coins near me at present (I'm travelling). I can just post the pictures.

    Tiberius, Antioch, 31-2 AD. AE 26 mm
    Obv.: TI CAESAR AVG TR POT XXXIII, laureate head of Tiberius, r.
    Rev.: S C within laurel wreath
    RPC I, 4272

    Nero, Antioch, AE 24 mm
    Obv.: IMP·NER·CL·CAE AVG·GER, laureate head of Nero, r.
    Rev.: S C in laurel wreath
    RPC I, 4283

    Domitian, I think... AE 27 mm
    Obv.: IMP DOMITIANVS CAES AVG, laureate head of Domitian, r.
    Rev.: S C in laurel wreath
    RPC II, 2021

    Domitian too, AE 23 mm
    Obv. : IMP DOMITIANVS CAES AVG, laureate head of Domitian, l.
    Rev: : S C in laurel wreath
    RPC II, 2024

    Nerva, Antioch, AE 29 mm
    Obv.: IMP CAESAR NERVA AVG III COS, laureate head of Nerva, r.
    Rev.: S C in laurel wreath, below SC: Γ
    RPC III, 3481

    Trajan, Antioch (oval countermark), AE 27 mm
    Obv.: ΑΥΤΟΚΡ ΚΑΙϹ ΝΕΡ ΤΡΑΙΑΝΟϹ ϹΕΒ ΓΕΡΜ ΔΑΚ, laureate head of Trajan, r.
    Rev.: S C in laurel wreath (letter unreadable)

    Macrinus, Antioch, AE 19 mm
    Obv.: [AV K M O C] MAKPINOC, laureate bust right
    Rev.: Large S·C, Δ Є above, eagle below, all within laurel wreath.
    McAlee 734. Very rare !!

    Elagabalus, Antioch, AE 19 mm
    Obv.: ΑΥΤ ΚΑ(Ι) Μ(ΑΡ) Α(Υ)(Ρ) ΑΝΤΩΝЄΙΝΟϹ Ϲ; laureate head, r.
    Rev.: S C, Δ Є, within laurel wreath; below, eagle facing, spreading wings, head r.
    Cf. RPC VI, 8044 (temporary)
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  6. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    Thank you all for your comment and your coins. From what I know, Galba o Otho bronzes are quite rare, especially those in good condition, I am still hunting for mine.
  7. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    Thank you all for your comment and your coins. Nice collection of coins, especially Macrinus, it is scarse coin.
  8. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    Thank you for the information about the counter-brand. This is an very interesting conclusion that it is official.
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  9. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    Here are all my bronzes from the SC series from Seleucis and Pieria so far.

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  10. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    What kind of emperor is this and is he rare? This one is from my modest collection.


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  11. Curtis

    Curtis Well-Known Member

    These are some nice groups of Antioch S-C bronzes. I've always liked these types -- nice Imperial style, but from a Provincial mint.

    Here are a few I found in a quick glance at my trays.

    This Flavian one is in my "countermarks" tray with a nice example of Howgego 245 (Athena Holding Spear & Shield), found on Antiochene coins from Claudius (or even Tiberius?) through Domitian. Is that Titus? Domitian? Not sure:
    Titus Antioch Countermark.jpg
    Bought it at my local coin shop (Gary Dayton, now d., who got it in a bulk purchase from HJB).

    Here's a nice portrait of Macrinus on a small module one:
    Macrinus 1 Antioch.jpg

    Trajan from a group lot from the Elvira Clain-Stefanelli Collection:
    Trajan AE Antioch Clain-Stefanelli MS.jpg

    This one is in an old envelope labeled Diadumenian -- if correct, that may be my only coin of his:
    Diadumenian Antioch.jpg

    A less artistic Macrinus:
    Macrinus 2 Antioch.png

    I used to get tons of these -- especially the smaller module ones -- in unidentified or uncleaned group lots in the early days of eBay.

    I bought the vast majority of them to sell, so I didn't really consider them my "collection," but stopped around 2011-3, especially when the Syrian gov. fell, and still have a lot in boxes unphotographed.

    I'd like to get some back -- or would, if they had been more conscientiously sourced.

    Here's just one of many such groups that I sold back then:


    More large modules, Augutus & Antoninus Pius, that I may have sold (maybe not?):
    Antioch Larger Module Augustus & Antoninus Pius.png

    Looking through my old sold mostly-uncleaned groups from mixed sources, there were many in those too:
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2023
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  12. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    Thank you for sharing. A large variety of coins and a wealth of experience visible. Judging by the remains of the legend on the obverse, it is Domitian. Smaller modules are still often found at auctions in large lots. However, it is much more difficult to find a larger module in good condition with a decent portrait. Most often, the price increases tenfold. Recently I managed to get Tytus (so-so condition, but rarer) - I will share a photo when the shipment arrives.


  13. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    I tnink it is small module of Marcus Aurelius.
    Rare? - depends on what we mean by rarity. The condition is rather poor, so it is difficult to determine the exact catalog number. It may turn out that it is the 5th known coin of the type even. But in this condition and due to the lack of detail, it is unlikely to be desired by collectors, so its value is rather historical and personal.
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  14. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    Hi All :) Its my new Titus from Antioch,
    13,58 g, 27 mm. I think it some scarse. What do you think? Share your coins of Titus from Antioch.

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