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<p>[QUOTE="ValpoBeginner, post: 3400624, member: 77066"]Chances are that you've probably never heard of Central Bank Counterfeit Deterrence Group (CBCDG). Earlier, I hooked up a new scanner and scanned two banknotes that I just got from the BEP. A little message popped up and said ....</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]903004[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So I clicked on information AND found out that I am criminally culpable if I don't destroy any scans</p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6"><b>18 U.S. Code § 504.Printing and filming of United States and foreign obligations and securities</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6"><b>&</b></font></font></p><p><font size="7"><b><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6"><b>31 CFR § 411.1 - Color illustrations </b></font><b><font size="6">authorized </font></b></font></b></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="7"><b><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6"><b>which say:</b></font></font></b></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the following are permitted:</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">(1) The printing, publishing, or importation, or the making or importation of the necessary plates for such printing or publishing, of illustrations of—</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">...</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">(C) any other obligation or other security of the United States, and</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">(D) postage stamps, revenue stamps, <span style="color: #ff0000">notes</span>, bonds, and any other obligation or other security of <span style="color: #ff0000">any foreign government, bank, or corporation</span>.</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">Illustrations permitted by the foregoing provisions of this section shall be made in accordance with the following conditions—</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">(i) all illustrations shall be in <u>black and white</u>, except that illustrations of <span style="color: #ff0000"><u>postage stamps</u> issued by the United States or by any foreign government and stamps issued under the Migratory Bird Hunting Stamp Act of 1934 may be in color</span>;</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">...</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">(2) The provisions of this section shall not permit the reproduction of illustrations of obligations or other securities, by or through electronic methods used for the acquisition, recording, retrieval, transmission, or reproduction of any obligation or other security, unless such use is authorized by the Secretary of the Treasury.</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4"><i>The Secretary shall establish a system to ensure that the legitimate use of such electronic methods and retention of such reproductions by businesses,<span style="color: #ff0000"> hobbyists</span>, press or others <span style="color: #ff0000">shall not be unduly restricted</span>.</i></font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="6">The conditions for scanning a banknote are in the code of Federal Regulations written into law in Jan. 2018 as:</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Courier New">§ 411.1 Color illustrations authorized.</font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Courier New">(a) Notwithstanding any provision of chapter 25 of Title 18 of the U.S. Code, authority is hereby given for the printing, publishing or importation, or the making or importation of the necessary plates or items for such printing or publishing, of color illustrations of U.S. currency provided that:</font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Courier New">(1) The illustration be of a <span style="color: #ff0000">size less than three-fourths</span> or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of any matter so illustrated;</font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Courier New">(2) The illustration be <span style="color: #ff0000">one-sided</span>; and</font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Courier New">(3) All negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof <span style="color: #ff0000">shall be destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use</span> in accordance with this section</font></p><p><br /></p><p>So far I'm cool with these laws esp. if it stops counterfeiting, but the guys enforcing these laws, (CBCDG) stopped my scanner from making a scan of my new collector's items. But how am I supposed to know what notes I will buy from ebay if the whole note isn't pictured...and in black and white only...Clearly, I am going to have to do what the stamp collectors probably did and write my congressman.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is kind of intrusive to stop a new scanner from allowing me to scan notes & I'd be really upset if I were a currency dealer.</p><p><br /></p><p>So who are the CBCDG? They are a group of 32 central banks and note printing authorities organized at the request of the Governors of the G10 central banks.</p><p><br /></p><p>Its mission is to investigate the common emerging threats to the security of banknotes, and to propose solutions for implementation by issuing authorities.</p><p><br /></p><p>The CBCDG supports and <span style="color: #ff0000">deploys</span> technologies that deter the use of digital equipment to counterfeit currency.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 32 member central banks are from the following 31 countries: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, the United Kingdom, the United States. The European Central Bank is also a member.</p><p><br /></p><p>I was able to skirt around the issue of scanning by rolling back the firmware and doing a scan to USB for my notes... but if they had their way, I suspect my post would look something like this....</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]903022[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I must go destroy my sd card with the original images on it now using the method prescribed by Federal Law......so I'd like to know your thoughts on this....?</p><p><br /></p><p>Does the CBCDG have the right to deploy it's compulsory software in my home and stop my scanner from scanning banknotes, in order to prevent a seriously bad counterfeiting problem? </p><p><br /></p><p>OR</p><p><br /></p><p>Should, the Secret Service and only the Secret Service be able to author this type of software with image recognition to compel me to stop sharing my hobby with others?</p><p><br /></p><p>I'd really like to know what you guys think...I was kinda shocked that it wouldn't scan.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ValpoBeginner, post: 3400624, member: 77066"]Chances are that you've probably never heard of Central Bank Counterfeit Deterrence Group (CBCDG). Earlier, I hooked up a new scanner and scanned two banknotes that I just got from the BEP. A little message popped up and said .... [ATTACH=full]903004[/ATTACH] So I clicked on information AND found out that I am criminally culpable if I don't destroy any scans [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=6][B]18 U.S. Code § 504.Printing and filming of United States and foreign obligations and securities[/B] [B]&[/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=7][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=6][B]31 CFR § 411.1 - Color illustrations [/B][/SIZE][B][SIZE=6]authorized [/SIZE][/B][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=7][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=6][B]which say:[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [FONT=Courier New][SIZE=4]Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the following are permitted: (1) The printing, publishing, or importation, or the making or importation of the necessary plates for such printing or publishing, of illustrations of— ... (C) any other obligation or other security of the United States, and (D) postage stamps, revenue stamps, [COLOR=#ff0000]notes[/COLOR], bonds, and any other obligation or other security of [COLOR=#ff0000]any foreign government, bank, or corporation[/COLOR]. Illustrations permitted by the foregoing provisions of this section shall be made in accordance with the following conditions— (i) all illustrations shall be in [U]black and white[/U], except that illustrations of [COLOR=#ff0000][U]postage stamps[/U] issued by the United States or by any foreign government and stamps issued under the Migratory Bird Hunting Stamp Act of 1934 may be in color[/COLOR]; ... (2) The provisions of this section shall not permit the reproduction of illustrations of obligations or other securities, by or through electronic methods used for the acquisition, recording, retrieval, transmission, or reproduction of any obligation or other security, unless such use is authorized by the Secretary of the Treasury. [I]The Secretary shall establish a system to ensure that the legitimate use of such electronic methods and retention of such reproductions by businesses,[COLOR=#ff0000] hobbyists[/COLOR], press or others [COLOR=#ff0000]shall not be unduly restricted[/COLOR].[/I][/SIZE] [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=6]The conditions for scanning a banknote are in the code of Federal Regulations written into law in Jan. 2018 as:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New] § 411.1 Color illustrations authorized. (a) Notwithstanding any provision of chapter 25 of Title 18 of the U.S. Code, authority is hereby given for the printing, publishing or importation, or the making or importation of the necessary plates or items for such printing or publishing, of color illustrations of U.S. currency provided that: (1) The illustration be of a [COLOR=#ff0000]size less than three-fourths[/COLOR] or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of any matter so illustrated; (2) The illustration be [COLOR=#ff0000]one-sided[/COLOR]; and (3) All negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof [COLOR=#ff0000]shall be destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use[/COLOR] in accordance with this section[/FONT] So far I'm cool with these laws esp. if it stops counterfeiting, but the guys enforcing these laws, (CBCDG) stopped my scanner from making a scan of my new collector's items. But how am I supposed to know what notes I will buy from ebay if the whole note isn't pictured...and in black and white only...Clearly, I am going to have to do what the stamp collectors probably did and write my congressman. It is kind of intrusive to stop a new scanner from allowing me to scan notes & I'd be really upset if I were a currency dealer. So who are the CBCDG? They are a group of 32 central banks and note printing authorities organized at the request of the Governors of the G10 central banks. Its mission is to investigate the common emerging threats to the security of banknotes, and to propose solutions for implementation by issuing authorities. The CBCDG supports and [COLOR=#ff0000]deploys[/COLOR] technologies that deter the use of digital equipment to counterfeit currency. The 32 member central banks are from the following 31 countries: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, the United Kingdom, the United States. The European Central Bank is also a member. I was able to skirt around the issue of scanning by rolling back the firmware and doing a scan to USB for my notes... but if they had their way, I suspect my post would look something like this.... [ATTACH=full]903022[/ATTACH] I must go destroy my sd card with the original images on it now using the method prescribed by Federal Law......so I'd like to know your thoughts on this....? Does the CBCDG have the right to deploy it's compulsory software in my home and stop my scanner from scanning banknotes, in order to prevent a seriously bad counterfeiting problem? OR Should, the Secret Service and only the Secret Service be able to author this type of software with image recognition to compel me to stop sharing my hobby with others? I'd really like to know what you guys think...I was kinda shocked that it wouldn't scan.[/QUOTE]
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