Had a business refuse coin payment today.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jensenbay, May 12, 2013.

  1. jensenbay

    jensenbay Well-Known Member

    Was in downtown Seattle today with the family and parked in a garage. We go to leave the garage and pay the $8. I hand the attendant a $5 bill, two president small dollars and two halves. He would not accept the coins. I don't know if he didn't know what they were or what (he may not have been in the country for very long). I question a bit and he just says "no". So I hand him some bills and go.

    I have never had anyone refuse coins from me before. I have had strange looks a few times but never a "no".

    Anyone have this happen to them? I wasn't like I was trying to pay with 16 rolls of cents, or something like that.
     
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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That's probably your answer.
     
  4. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    Ask if he accepts tips. (Yes). Hand over aforementioned $8 with said coins. When he accepts them, tell him his tip is that "In America we accept all American money"

    HA!
     
  5. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I don't think this is such a strange thing. It's a parking garage, so it's entirely possible that he merely inserts the bills into a scanner thing that spits out change, as needed, and "deposits" all the currency into a drop vault that he can't access. Think of it in a similar fashion to an electronic prepay machine, but instead of you putting the bills in the machine yourself, that attendant was paid to do it.
     
  6. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    Do they really pay an attendant to put bills in a reader? I imagine similar to those at self checkouts out even the mech you see in vending machines..... Why would they pay someone to accept the money instead of wiring it to the gate or door barring exit pending payment? The most obvious answer is that the attendant is expected to give..... Change. :)

    I really have a problem with lazy workers that come into my radar. I bust my butt every day. As to using immigration as an excuse, go back where you came from. My forefathers came here just another face in a crowd, in the bottom of a dangerous mine, without any govt aid, without knowing English. Guess how fast one learned English in those days, no worker orgs or protections. Beatings, legal racism. Those that came ahead of their family but died and were unclaimed (most of the time those families were unaware of the death and even made the trip only to find a home was NOT ready for them and papa just disappeared) were simply tossed in mass graves. The old cemetery in my town is proof, with as many as 20,000-30,000 bodies reported to be in that hole.

    And he won't accept/deal with change. :veryangry:

    Edit: save four $2 notes just for him next time. Lesson #2 :devil:
     
  7. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    The reason that you still need an attendant is people who refuse to use the kiosks for reasons akin to Luddite thought process. They need an attendant there to take the bills from people who simply don't trust the machines.

    Again, I could see them not being able to take coins simply due to lack of a change drawer. If the machines only accept bills and only give out change in bills, then the attendant wouldn't be able to accept coins.
     
  8. Circus

    Circus Tokens Only !! TEC#4981

    When they first hit the street, I used to get a roll a week and use them as much as I could. The biggest problem I had was at Home Despot with female teenage/twenty something cashiers! The first one told me that she didn't know what the exchange rate for gold was? The line was long so I gave the bills.

    The second time a different one said they only take US money, the women in line behind me asked her if she could read? That upset the young lady and the head cashier came and told her that they had to take them. All though they would prefer not to due to no slot for them.

    The third time, I had one call the manager since I was the only one in line and she looked like I was going to rob her. The manger explained to her that they were real, they were US coinage, and they were only worth a dollar each so treat them as dollars bills. The way he explained it, you knew that she wasn't the brightest bulb on their string of customer service!

    On the other side I used to use them for a paper and coffee, at the 7-11 each morning. The cashier told me after a week that she had a guy that was giving her an extra quarter for each one as he wanted them for his Vegas vacation. A case of two people that didn't know where their bank was and that you could get them there!

    A lot of younger people and even older ones don't watch, read or listen to the news today. Let alone pay attention to coinage age other than their pay envelope.

    I just got tired of the lost time and hassles, so I stopped using them. Plus the banks could only get the SBA's from the armor car companies, rerolled from the casino's. Now they are a real PIA to try to use. I have been told they are only quarters that somebody FIXED!

    I did ask for her to explain :rolleyes:
     
  9. Lanny

    Lanny Mr. Nice Guy

    Not a bad idea, I should use dollar coins at parking lots. It's a pain trying to stuff dollar bills in coin slots for parking.
     
  10. Tyler

    Tyler Active Member

    Say it is all you have. Then they can't refuse. I once went into a store that clearly accepts credit cards(had sign in the front). I go to the cashier "the machine is broken"(many of you probably have heard the same line before). I told the cashier it was all I had or else I would have to come back another time. Magically the machine started working again!
     
  11. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    This thread should be removed because it is causing me serious stress:) How could anyone use Amercian coinage as money? That is what an ATM card is for. Coinage is placed into the big pot next to your bed. It is to be turned over to your next of kin upon your death or for your next Vegas trip, whichever comes first.
     
  12. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    Exactly what are they going to do? Hold you hostage because a handful of quarters or the nationally promoted dollar coins aren't good enough? Was there a sign saying No Coins Accepted? If not, I'd be on the phone with a manager right then and there. As long as you offer legal tender payment you cannot be penalized as if you hadn't even attempted to pay.
     
  13. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    How about asking him why instead of assuming he is lazy and should be kicked out of the country. :rollling:
     
  14. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    Because I'm sure his job attending a car park garage is terribly strenuous, right?

    I never said kick out. I say if you aren't willing to make an honest effort to perform the job you are hired to do (it's a flat $8, no complicated math here) that the individual should voluntarily go back where they came from so as not to stick taxpayers for a free ride back to wherever. Also I intimated that English should be a top priority.

    Also, the OP DID ask, (Post #1) was refused with no reasoning behind it. Hence, LAZY.

    Who assumed what now Fall Guy? ;)
     
  15. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    It isn't just people from "outside the country".

    Few Americans (other than coin collectors) know about the dollar coins.

    I have handed out a few and have been asked "are these play money?".

    Or "who is Millard Fillmore?".

    :)
     
  16. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    I agree Willie. Laziness is universal. But luckily, I'm an equal opportunity hater of lazy workers. :) I draw the line at restaurants though. Heh, I have a buddy, USAF Captain, even more strong willed than me: sent his food back three times, each time becoming more upset that they could not seem to get his order right. Before that 3rd go-around I'm telling him, "man, you better check your food for boogers and Lugies and stuff. ". :)
     
  17. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Next time trying paying with a couple dollars worth of quarters, if he takes them then all he needs is an education.
     
  18. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Luddite? Perhaps, but I can't tell you how many mistakes I've found over the years, reviewing receipts against bank statements. And the mistakes are invariably against my accounts - only once was I charged less than I paid. I've gotten to the point where I check my bank accounts against receipts every day - it only takes a few minutes as opposed to waiting till the end of a cycle.

    Also, how often do we hear about e-theft? A word to the wise: watch your money like a hawk, because a lot of other people are.
     
  19. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    If you would of insisted and he refused, your debt to them would of been absolved.

    U.S. currency has to be accepted as payment for a debt.
     
  20. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    Splitting hairs now aren't we? There were plenty of probable explanations on why he did what he did, but your first thought was he's lazy and should leave the country? C'mon. Maybe his boss doesn't want to count the coins at the end of the day and he is just following orders etc. There are tons of explanations. But yeah leave the country because you won't take my dollar coins.
     
  21. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    But, would he have opened the gate?
     
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