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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1584292, member: 112"]Well I have to admit I certainly am curious to see how this turns out. Proof or business strike ? I think that is a foregone conclusion. I haven't looked it up because I have no need to look it up. And I have no need to look it up because I know I can take Jason's word that it is a Proof. He has the coin in hand, and if he says the coin has the Proof die markers, that's good enough for me. Jason is no slouch when ti comes to coins. Labeling errors happen, a lot. But we'll wait and see what PCGS says for confirmation for those who are skeptical.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now whether the coin gets into a regular slab or ends up in a details slab, that's another story. That one could either way. For unlike the Proof question, which is a provable fact because of die markers, defining the coin as a problem coin or not - that is and always is, an opinion. It is never anything more than an opinion. And it is most definitely not unheard of for NGC and PCGS to put a harshly cleaned coin into a regular slab. Nor is it unheard of for either of them to put a coin into a details slab that is not a problem coin at all. In fact, both of them have been know to at first label a coin as being a problem coin, only to turn around and then grade the exact same, identical coin and put in a regular slab. So that one, as I said, that one could go either way.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have already voiced my opinion. Based on the pics I think the coin has been harshly cleaned. Were I to see the coin in hand, yes, I might change my mind, but also might not. We'll never know because I will almost certainly never see the coin in hand.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I will say this. It is easy for somebody to say that pictures make a coin look worse than it really does. But pictures cannot show you something that is not there, on the coin. Sure, pictures can make some things seem more obvious than they appear to be in hand. But if you look carefully, you can always, always, see the very same things on the coin that the picture shows you.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reason this concept is hard to grasp or even believe is because pictures can do the exact opposite. Pictures can and often do hide things, or flat out not show things, that are most definitely on the coin. But this being true, does not in any way make the other true.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, I'm curious to see how it turns out <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1584292, member: 112"]Well I have to admit I certainly am curious to see how this turns out. Proof or business strike ? I think that is a foregone conclusion. I haven't looked it up because I have no need to look it up. And I have no need to look it up because I know I can take Jason's word that it is a Proof. He has the coin in hand, and if he says the coin has the Proof die markers, that's good enough for me. Jason is no slouch when ti comes to coins. Labeling errors happen, a lot. But we'll wait and see what PCGS says for confirmation for those who are skeptical. Now whether the coin gets into a regular slab or ends up in a details slab, that's another story. That one could either way. For unlike the Proof question, which is a provable fact because of die markers, defining the coin as a problem coin or not - that is and always is, an opinion. It is never anything more than an opinion. And it is most definitely not unheard of for NGC and PCGS to put a harshly cleaned coin into a regular slab. Nor is it unheard of for either of them to put a coin into a details slab that is not a problem coin at all. In fact, both of them have been know to at first label a coin as being a problem coin, only to turn around and then grade the exact same, identical coin and put in a regular slab. So that one, as I said, that one could go either way. I have already voiced my opinion. Based on the pics I think the coin has been harshly cleaned. Were I to see the coin in hand, yes, I might change my mind, but also might not. We'll never know because I will almost certainly never see the coin in hand. But I will say this. It is easy for somebody to say that pictures make a coin look worse than it really does. But pictures cannot show you something that is not there, on the coin. Sure, pictures can make some things seem more obvious than they appear to be in hand. But if you look carefully, you can always, always, see the very same things on the coin that the picture shows you. The reason this concept is hard to grasp or even believe is because pictures can do the exact opposite. Pictures can and often do hide things, or flat out not show things, that are most definitely on the coin. But this being true, does not in any way make the other true. Anyway, I'm curious to see how it turns out ;)[/QUOTE]
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