Guess the Hammer Price: 1857s Gold $20.

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  1. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Guess the final hammer price. This is a really beautiful early Gold Double Eagle, and not common in this condition, and with this level of eye appeal.

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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    guessing $14,325.00
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2022
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  4. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I will go $15,800, including buyer’s premium.
  5. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I'll guess $14,700.00, including juice.
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  6. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    $16,500 with BP
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  7. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    $15,500 including the BP.
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  8. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Disclosure, I don't know the market but would be around where the last for posters guessed, (around $15k) as a guess. Then again, a 1902 indian head just sold for $144k so who knows.
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  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    15,500 incl BP
  10. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Market dilution will be at play, especially with the 66+ and 67s that have sold, setting the price point. there were a lot of 65s. JA opines that the condition and eye appeal was fairly common with most of the hoard. 5% or so had issues, and 4 were superb-67 superb. So.....
  11. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    PCGS Guide say $17,500 as of this post with a recent NGC sale at $9,000 (not CAC) and PCGS at $14,000 (CAC and SS Central America pedigree). I'll say this one comes somewhere in between those two.
    So I'll go with $11,500 total (that includes the b.p.)
  12. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    GREY CAC Retail is 14K, so, RETAIL? Interestingly, 50,55,58 and 62 is climbing. These grades have a wonderful appearance, and would satisfy the average hobbyist at a reasonable (read wonderful) price.
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  14. Jedinited

    Jedinited Jayhawk Numismatist

    Fantastic 1857-S that is not shipwreck. Maybe one of the finest known that is not?
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

  16. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I am not certain I understand the not shipwreck comment, or the significance.
    I also do not understand that it may be the finest known that is not, or the significance, regardless of the TPG Grade.
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  17. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I've got a 1904 American Liberty Double Eagle. It was my first gold purchase or have owned. I was a late bloomer. I thought "IT" was the prettiest coin I had seen. I knew very little about coin collecting and grading coins. I found out that mine had scratches on its face. Maybe it did affect me somewhat, but it was the only gold that I had every owned and I was not going to let anyone have it.
    We each have our favorites. Many years ago, I found a puppy under the hood of my car. I tried to find out who the owner was, but to no avail. Everyone told me that the puppy was the ugliest one they had ever seen and that I should take him to the pound. I was dead set against that, so I finally decided to keep him, even though others thought he was ugly. That puppy slept with me for 12 years and I knew there would be a time that I wouldn't have him anymore. That day finally came. He is still with me buried in the back yard. I put a brick where he lays with his name on it... Chewy. I didn't think I could ever get another puppy. It took me three years, but my vet called me. He said he had something he wanted to show me. When I went to him, he told me to hold out my hands. When I did, he placed a puppy in my right hand and then he told me to hold out my left hand, and there was the ugliest puppy I had ever seen. They were chi-weenies... a boy and a girl. My vet told me that someone had left them in a box at the door of his office. After I paid him, I took them home and put them in a playpen that Chewy had slept in when I was at work. One is a boy, named Beau (Beaucephus) and the other is Belle (Belladonna). I now have 2 bed partners.
    We all have our favorites, whether it's a dog, a cat, or a gold coin. There will come a time that you will make a change.
    Best of luck to you all, and thank you for sharing you love of collecting coins. I have learned a great deal from you.
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    In order to find out, I'll spout off $12K as if I knew what I was doing...
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  20. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Coin is currently at $8056.44. Interestingly, there is another 1857-S, but a shipwreck coin in NGC MS-65 in a week later auction that is listed with a starting bid of $13,500 but no takers yet.
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  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I think this one is more attractive than the Spanish shipwreck coin.
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