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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Dave M, post: 1323211, member: 17469&quot;]I&#039;d like to toss out a question on this &quot;guess the grade&quot; discussion. Currently, <a href="http://www.pmgnotes.com/grading/grading-scale.asp" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pmgnotes.com/grading/grading-scale.asp" rel="nofollow">PMG</a> and <a href="http://www.pcgscurrency.com/g_scale.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgscurrency.com/g_scale.html" rel="nofollow">PCGS</a> have published grading specs which were originally based on the Sheldon numerical 1-70 scale, use words like &quot;uncirculated&quot; etc, but are not the same in the descriptions of the grade. For example, look at a 55 from PMG:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>and a 55 from PCGS:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>for 55, PMG will allow 2 pressed folds, whereas PCGS will only allow 2 &quot;bends&quot; that do not break the paper surface. Those are *very* different conditions.</p><p><br /></p><p>And then add in to the discussion <a href="http://www.theibns.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=4&amp;Itemid=25" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.theibns.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=4&amp;Itemid=25" rel="nofollow">IBNS</a>, which defines the standard grading for non-US notes, their grade of AU is:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>As usual, IBNS grading is tighter than the US/TPG grades, in this case allowing only one bend as opposed to PCGS&#039;s two bends.</p><p><br /></p><p>All this to say, doesn&#039;t a thread &quot;Guess the grade?&quot; or more generally any discussion of &quot;what grade is this&quot; deserve an immediate response of &quot;according to who&#039;s grading scale?&quot;. With tongue in cheek, I could say that CEC&#039;s grades of 70 are completely accurate, *according to their (unpublished) grading scale*, yes?</p><p><br /></p><p>Just some thoughts for discussion, I suppose.</p><p>Dave[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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