Guess the grade(s)

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  1. yarm

    yarm Junior Member Supporter

    This peace dollar was graded by PCGS in the 90's and then cracked and resubmitted to PCGS recently. What say ye?

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  3. alhenry92

    alhenry92 32 Year Old Liberty Nickel Enthusiast

    oooooooh I love these posts! Going off the PCGS Photograde website, I'd put it between AU53-AU55, leaning a little more into AU55, it's real close.
     
  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    90s PCGS: MS65
    Today PCGS: MS66
     
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  5. Charlie Thomas

    Charlie Thomas New Member

    I'm not to good at this sort of thing, but I'll guess:

    1990's MS 61
    Now MS 63
     
  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    MS 62 before
    MS63 Now, I guess.
     
  7. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    Before MS-64
    After MS-65
     
  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'll be the contrarian and say it was an MS 65 and got a conservative grader recently who gave it an MS 64.
     
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  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    65/65 on this one, it really depends on the luster.
     
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  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    65/64 I think the standards are just a bit tighter now.
     
  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    It looks about as nice as mine, so I would be surprised if it got less than MS65 nowadays. In fact, I'll be optimistic and say it was MS65 then and MS66 now?

    Speaking of mine- I just bought it at the FUN show a few days ago. So here it is, by way of comparison. It is a PCGS MS65 in a 1990s-vintage old green label holder. I have no intention of cracking it out, but this thread does make me curious about what would happen if I did, hypothetically.

    It's a real lusterbomb, so it called out to me from the case and said "buy me!"

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  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

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    1776 Active Member

  15. 1776

    1776 Active Member

    Sweet, I can’t pass up those luster bombs myself
     
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  16. yarm

    yarm Junior Member Supporter

    This peace dollar belonged to my dad who was born in 1922! It was in a PCGS MS63 holder.

    I joined PCGS after a long break intending to get a second opinion on some tokens and medals but found they could not be submitted with my free vouchers. So, I rummaged around for some raw coins and thought it might be interesting to resubmit the slabbed dollar.

    My results:

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  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Well, bummer! :(

    Aside from perhaps one little mark on the throat, that thing looks just about as mark-free as my MS65.

    Might be worth another try at NGC?

    Of course, there is the possibility it "had some work done". They must have seen something. But what?

    One thing that I did question is the definition of the line running along the base of the right edge of Liberty's neck. Could that be some tooling there?

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    If not that, then I dunno? *shrug*

    It's a nice looking coin, regardless.
     
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  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    That stinks and the MS 63 original grade seemed fairly conservative.
    With altered surfaces, the only thing I notice is that the cheek and neck have an “odd” look (like someone rubbed or thumbed that area-but it could just be the photo).
     
  19. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Maybe detailed for cleaned.
     
  20. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Nope. Said “altered surfaces”. That’s something beyond your run-of-the-mill cleaning. Unfortunately. :(
     
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  21. alhenry92

    alhenry92 32 Year Old Liberty Nickel Enthusiast

    Boy am I far off :facepalm:
     
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