Guess the grade--NGC 1944-S Walking Liberty Half Dollar

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Lehigh96, Jan 21, 2009.

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Guess the Grade

  1. MS67

    4.2%
  2. MS66

    25.0%
  3. MS65

    29.2%
  4. MS64

    29.2%
  5. Other (please explain)

    12.5%
  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Hey guys, do you know what really big coin photos mean. Really big marks. Shrink it down a little and they don't look so bad.

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    :)
     
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  3. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    are you saying that you agree with my MS-63 assessment, Doug?
     
  4. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    This is one of the toughest series for me to grade, due to the fact that wear and weak strike typically occur in the same spots....

    That said, I'd grade the coin 65, but wouldn't really be surprised in any of the posted grades for the above reasons....
     
  5. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    In this case, I'd guess neither. They were likely on the planchet when it was struck, and since this area wasn't fully struck, you're seeing those defects that were already on the planchet.

    But that's just my opinion, respectfully submitted...Mike
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Nope, I think it's a solid 64.
     
  7. sketcherpbr

    sketcherpbr Enthusiast

    Ehh, even scaled down they look kind of offensive on such a beautiful coin. I'll go with MS65, even though I don't have a ton of experience in grading. It's a clean coin besides the hits, and there are a few areas where the details are just astounding.
    So, they say MS65, but you say otherwise, and methinks this might be part of the reason you want to get rid of it.
    But methinks me thinks too much.
     
  8. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    No this coin is a perfect example of my impatience as a collector and I bought it before I decided to started to be more aware of the other elements of grading besides eye appeal (specifically strike and surface preservation). This coin is nice but it does not deserve the grade on the plastic. The toning, luster, and eye appeal are fantastic and consistent with a premium gem. But they simply don't warrant the bump that NGC gave this coin when they graded it. Those marks should absolutely limit the grade to MS65, yet:

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    I think Doug is right that the coin is a solid MS64 and have no problem with it being market graded as an MS65, but MS66 is really pushing it IMO.
     
  9. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    I agree. I never would have thought they gave this coin a 66.
     
  10. sketcherpbr

    sketcherpbr Enthusiast

    :eek:hya: I win!!! = P jk. It's still a nice coin.
     
  11. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    Perhaps the booming luster improperly influenced the grade?

    (P.S. I guessed right! self-back slap)
     
  12. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

  13. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    I plead the fifth. ;) Lol, just joking. I honestly didn't peek. And I live near Altoona. Why do you ask, lol?

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    By way of comparison, here's my 66 (also graded by NGC):

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    Please excuse my old, and slightly out of focus photos. I hope you all don't think less of me. ;)
     
  15. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    Now that's a 66.
     
  16. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    Bee-ute-tee-full!

    What is going on with the "D" in "GOD"?
     
  17. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    It's a D/S, silly. :)
     
  18. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    I think so.

    Happens all the time, especially with common date gold. Big luster can promote the thing to 65, even for baggy coins that would normally get 64 or even 63 IMO.
     
  19. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    technically i would grade leadfoots higher but personally i would pay more money for the OP's coin. Idk if thats because of the photos or not but leadfoots just doesnt seem to have that much luster or eye appeal
     
  20. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Love the luster but hate the strike and hits on the leg , looks like a coin I would have bought before I learned a little about grading ,
    rzage
     
  21. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .


    Leadfoots coin deserves the grade , and the luster probably looks better in hand , it looks fine to me now .
    rzage:D:):hatch::hammer:
     
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