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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 3221874, member: 15309"]This coin is not overgraded at MS65. It has MS63 surfaces with MS68 luster & eye appeal from the photos. Like baseball21 said, just because you don't like the grade, doesn't mean it was wrong. If both PCGS and CAC saw this coin in hand and graded the coin MS65, I'm certainly going to defer to their in hand assessment than a bunch of guys on an internet forum who disagree based on two widely varying photos.</p><p><br /></p><p>If this thread has proven anything, it shouldn't be that the TPGs make egregious mistakes, rather, it should be that attempting to grade coins from photos is dangerous. Both of the coins in this thread are toned monsters where the eye appeal and luster make up for inferior surfaces. Just because you guys think that surface preservation is grade limiting, doesn't mean you are right.</p><p><br /></p><p>Furthermore, my constant defense of the TPGs isn't based on grading ignorance; I will put my grading skills up against anyone on this forum. I defend them because they are better graders than I am, period. I have actually submitted coins to both NGC & PCGS and learned something from almost every submission. </p><p><br /></p><p>If the TPGs were rampantly overgrading coins, then each and every one of you "expert graders" on this forum should be able to exploit that by purchasing raw coins at what you perceive the correct grade to be, submitting the coins for grading, and then cashing in on all the overgraded coins you get back. Until you can do this, consistently, you need to pipe down.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 3221874, member: 15309"]This coin is not overgraded at MS65. It has MS63 surfaces with MS68 luster & eye appeal from the photos. Like baseball21 said, just because you don't like the grade, doesn't mean it was wrong. If both PCGS and CAC saw this coin in hand and graded the coin MS65, I'm certainly going to defer to their in hand assessment than a bunch of guys on an internet forum who disagree based on two widely varying photos. If this thread has proven anything, it shouldn't be that the TPGs make egregious mistakes, rather, it should be that attempting to grade coins from photos is dangerous. Both of the coins in this thread are toned monsters where the eye appeal and luster make up for inferior surfaces. Just because you guys think that surface preservation is grade limiting, doesn't mean you are right. Furthermore, my constant defense of the TPGs isn't based on grading ignorance; I will put my grading skills up against anyone on this forum. I defend them because they are better graders than I am, period. I have actually submitted coins to both NGC & PCGS and learned something from almost every submission. If the TPGs were rampantly overgrading coins, then each and every one of you "expert graders" on this forum should be able to exploit that by purchasing raw coins at what you perceive the correct grade to be, submitting the coins for grading, and then cashing in on all the overgraded coins you get back. Until you can do this, consistently, you need to pipe down.[/QUOTE]
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