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<p>[QUOTE="cremebrule, post: 1892496, member: 35227"]Hi all,</p><p><br /></p><p>A lot of good response and questions. I'll do my best to answer most of them!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This GtG will close in a week since it was posted, so I'll be posting the result this upcoming Wednesday (4/1).</p><p><br /></p><p>FWIW, I submitted the coin hoping for a cross, as I was originally looking to sell this coin later down the road and figured a PCGS slab with the same grade would be easier to liquidate and bring stronger money. It was cracked to avoid any stigmas associated with non-PCGS slabs.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No offense taken! I was going to respond to your original post, but figured that others would chime in beforehand (since most are probably more knowledgeable than me on this subject). But here goes...</p><p><br /></p><p>There's an extremely fine line between AU58 and the lower MS grades (60-62, occasionally 63); some even might call it a continuum. The difference between AU and MS is "true" wear vs. friction rub (or any type of rub, for that matter) -- the later isn't considered actual wear, whereas the former knocks the coin down from the MS range. Luster also takes part in the determination of the grade -- I'm not 100% sure on this (please correct me if I'm wrong), but a lightly worn coin with booming/near-full luster will nonetheless be given an MS grade despite its technical AU status. The TPGs are occasionally inconsistent when evaluating these distinctions, which is why a cross/regrade could cause of a jump from AU to MS or vise versa.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another major aspect is strike. For some dates/mm combinations of any series, you'll be hard pressed to find a coin with a full, sharp strike. This is espeically true for early silver, whose dies were not only weak to begin with, but also became worn over time. If you look up the PCGS CoinFacts page for 1832 H10s, you'll notice that all of the featured coins have distinctly weak reverses -- and the top coin is graded MS68+!</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course, the coin in the OP clearly has signs of light wear/rub, but I would say there's more rub than wear -- on the obverse, I would consider as wear the tips of the cirls, Liberty's eyebrow, nose, and chin. The majority of her bust and cheek is a darker shade, making me think it's a rub rather than full-on wear. On the reverse, there's signs of the common weak strike for the date, but does the coin have more wear past the actual strike? If you put all these aspects together, you have an ambiguous result which I think caused the wide spread in guesses. Add the color in and it seems like a pot shot to me, IMHO.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cremebrule, post: 1892496, member: 35227"]Hi all, A lot of good response and questions. I'll do my best to answer most of them! This GtG will close in a week since it was posted, so I'll be posting the result this upcoming Wednesday (4/1). FWIW, I submitted the coin hoping for a cross, as I was originally looking to sell this coin later down the road and figured a PCGS slab with the same grade would be easier to liquidate and bring stronger money. It was cracked to avoid any stigmas associated with non-PCGS slabs. No offense taken! I was going to respond to your original post, but figured that others would chime in beforehand (since most are probably more knowledgeable than me on this subject). But here goes... There's an extremely fine line between AU58 and the lower MS grades (60-62, occasionally 63); some even might call it a continuum. The difference between AU and MS is "true" wear vs. friction rub (or any type of rub, for that matter) -- the later isn't considered actual wear, whereas the former knocks the coin down from the MS range. Luster also takes part in the determination of the grade -- I'm not 100% sure on this (please correct me if I'm wrong), but a lightly worn coin with booming/near-full luster will nonetheless be given an MS grade despite its technical AU status. The TPGs are occasionally inconsistent when evaluating these distinctions, which is why a cross/regrade could cause of a jump from AU to MS or vise versa. Another major aspect is strike. For some dates/mm combinations of any series, you'll be hard pressed to find a coin with a full, sharp strike. This is espeically true for early silver, whose dies were not only weak to begin with, but also became worn over time. If you look up the PCGS CoinFacts page for 1832 H10s, you'll notice that all of the featured coins have distinctly weak reverses -- and the top coin is graded MS68+! Of course, the coin in the OP clearly has signs of light wear/rub, but I would say there's more rub than wear -- on the obverse, I would consider as wear the tips of the cirls, Liberty's eyebrow, nose, and chin. The majority of her bust and cheek is a darker shade, making me think it's a rub rather than full-on wear. On the reverse, there's signs of the common weak strike for the date, but does the coin have more wear past the actual strike? If you put all these aspects together, you have an ambiguous result which I think caused the wide spread in guesses. Add the color in and it seems like a pot shot to me, IMHO.[/QUOTE]
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