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<p>[QUOTE="mark_h, post: 1767612, member: 3726"]I pretty much assume the TPG graders have more knowledge than I do - at the same time I don't think it makes them perfect. I also use the heritage archives when trying to grade something like these coins. What I did not do was blow them up enough, but then again it may have made me go to low on the grades. So I have no problem with the grades assigned. Now if people want to call them AU that is fine with me also - I am not going to argue over pictures in this case. My opinion is the pictures show enough to qualify as MS. I just know most of the gold I have seen in the 60-63 range look a lot like these - in hand not to my tastes. So far the ones I have bought (6) are all in the AU range. Gold is tough to grade.</p><p> </p><p>What was really cool was one day the shop had the same date, type, etc in AU-55 and MS-62 grade. The two coins looked identical based off the strike - the difference being the luster and bag marks on the 62. The 55 looked much nicer to me, just no where near the luster of the 62. To me the bag marks made the 62 one ugly coin, with each bag mark looking like a break in luster. This is one of the things I really like about my local coin shop - they will let me look at study everything, even though they know I will not buy most of what I look at. Probably the only way I will ever get to look real close at proof 1840 seated dollar - I read somewhere 10-20 of them minted(with the total of 40 at PCGS and NGC being re-submissions). That reminds me - they covered the grade on a fugio cent and ask me to grade it. The strike was so weak - I said XF, maybe AU-50. Turns out it was a MS62 coin - then we discussed it for about 10 minutes on why he thought it was graded correctly.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mark_h, post: 1767612, member: 3726"]I pretty much assume the TPG graders have more knowledge than I do - at the same time I don't think it makes them perfect. I also use the heritage archives when trying to grade something like these coins. What I did not do was blow them up enough, but then again it may have made me go to low on the grades. So I have no problem with the grades assigned. Now if people want to call them AU that is fine with me also - I am not going to argue over pictures in this case. My opinion is the pictures show enough to qualify as MS. I just know most of the gold I have seen in the 60-63 range look a lot like these - in hand not to my tastes. So far the ones I have bought (6) are all in the AU range. Gold is tough to grade. What was really cool was one day the shop had the same date, type, etc in AU-55 and MS-62 grade. The two coins looked identical based off the strike - the difference being the luster and bag marks on the 62. The 55 looked much nicer to me, just no where near the luster of the 62. To me the bag marks made the 62 one ugly coin, with each bag mark looking like a break in luster. This is one of the things I really like about my local coin shop - they will let me look at study everything, even though they know I will not buy most of what I look at. Probably the only way I will ever get to look real close at proof 1840 seated dollar - I read somewhere 10-20 of them minted(with the total of 40 at PCGS and NGC being re-submissions). That reminds me - they covered the grade on a fugio cent and ask me to grade it. The strike was so weak - I said XF, maybe AU-50. Turns out it was a MS62 coin - then we discussed it for about 10 minutes on why he thought it was graded correctly.[/QUOTE]
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