Guess the Grade and Value of this Silver Roosie

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by physics-fan3.14, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Great guesses, everyone! Most people were right around the assigned grade, more or less.

    NGC called this one 65 PL, and I paid $130 for it.

    It is the only graded PL for 1963D, and it is the only Denver minted prooflike Silver Roosie. Prooflikes of the mid 60s are really hard to find, so I pick them up whenever I can. The S-mint PLs of the 40s and 50s have a definite character, and the PLs of 68-72 have a completely different character - but any PL I've seen from 63-64 is intriguingly different.

    This particular coin has an interesting appearance. The obverse has strong die polish, which you can see in the fields in my images. This is characteristic of the earlier S-mint PL's that are fairly common. However, as Roger pointed out, the lines you see on the reverse are from metal fatigue (or, die wear). There doesn't appear to be strong evidence of die polish on the reverse - but the fields are just as reflectively prooflike as the obverse.

    There is no evidence in hand of hub doubling, obverse or reverse. There is *very* minor machine doubling on parts, especially the motto. Most likely, any doubling you see is an artifact of the lighting.

    Anyways, I thought it was interesting and figured I'd share.

    And, I'll let you off eating this one. Stomach acid would wreck the PL surfaces ;)
     
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  3. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Boy, I'd like to see this one in hand :rolleyes:
     
  4. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Well , you don't hafta eat the coin, but here's a nice helping of leftover crow from the last GTG thread. Which BTW I nailed right outta the gate too.:cigar:
     
  5. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Stands up, takes a bow, receives invisible trophy, claims bragging rights.... Crowd goes wild!!!:troll:
     
  6. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I like Pigeon better. They're a delicacy :p
     
  7. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    I had this one correct as well. I think my price is better with its uniqueness. Very nice coin, also would like to see it in hand. Nice addition and for a great price. Thanks for another great informative thread.
     
  8. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Ksig, we have been on a roll here lately. Too bad NGC doesn't keep score of the GTG threads and offer positions to the annual score leaders.:oops:
     
  9. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    I will take my quarterly bonus now, I need more modelos... :happy:
     
  10. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    That is an interesting coin. I guess I would expect a coin struck from worn and touched up (coarse polishing) dies to not have PL surfaces, so maybe somebody worked on the dies with fine emery buffing for some reason, restoring the PL character? I really don't know, but it gets me thinking.
     
  11. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    I've seen this same effect on a 1945 p mercury dime. Clashed dies, then Heavy polish creating mirrored fields, maybe I shoulda sent that one in for grading:shifty:
    These coins are often very tricky, as physics probably knows, they are usually mistaken as cleaned,and would fool most beginner/intermediate collectors
     
  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    $200 was my max bid. The other guy quit before we got that high.
     
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