Guess the grade #46

I just received a roll I bought off of FleaBay- Should I post the results?

it has a 1911 D on one end and a 1916 D on the other end. Oh Yeah.. it's lincoln Cents.

The Label Read Onodaga Sanitorium. I'm sure some of you have seen them selling
on eBay.

Sorry .. I just realized I wasn't in " Post Your Results".

 

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I agree 100%.

 

I hope you can follow which line I am referring to. This is the 1806 top left 3 stars;

1. scratch in denticle - metal pushed over the scratch from the north
2. scratch in denticle - metal pushed over the scratch from the north and south
3. scratch goes down denticle, across field, up star point and ends at top of star
4. scratch goes down denticle, across field, up and down first star point, across field between star points, up and down star point and continues into the field to the right of the star.

Please try to explain how this could possibly be post mint.

 

Maybe it got caught in a coin counting machine.

Just giving you a hard time, G. You know I still love you.

 

The entire surface of this 2000 copper plated cent is a sea of somewhat parallel waves which run over both high and low areas of relief. It would be interesting if there was a way to do a clean cross section thru the coin and see if there is any separation between the planchet and the plating.

 

ok

 

100% of the respondents ATS believe the mint filed planchets, not finished coins. I suppose they are all misinformed.

And you're right, I still don't believe you. I'm going to do some experiments tonight (if I get to it) and post the results.

 

p.s. the 2000 lincoln posted appears to have die polish marks (or some odd plating anomaly) - quite different from what we are discussing here.

 

Kind of my thoughts. I have several new String rolls with better ones in the ends, from what I can see. The scratches really bothered me, because there are so many nicer coins out there that are readily available.

 

Thanks for brining my point back up, Gary.
I wanted to mention, jokingly and seriously, that I might've been throwing away some very high end coins lol
I remember, in 2009, with the four pennies, I looked through every one I got in change, and I compared with MS67, which were quite expensive, counterparts. I never had a MS67. (But now I wonder if I missed out on having a good flipping opportunity in 2010!)

 

There's is almost nothing so disappointing as to look at all the coins in a proof set and see that they look perfect in every way. LOL Gimme an error, a Mule, variety, something !

I can cry when I see a dime with a misplaced mint mark is worth hundreds and my dime's mark is right where it should be. LOL

 

on the posted 2000 cent.... I don't think the lines in the fields would be questioned by big D. as being post mind... I do think the stuff on the lower bust of lincoln would be questioned by big D. as being post mint rub..... I'd tend to agree with the post minting rub, at least in the areas of the 2000 that I've stated (lower bust area, shoulder, etc..).

 

btw... the 2000 would probably get a ms65 from the tpg's... only becasue of the hit by abe's mouth.... without that, it could easily get a 66 also. tpg's, as I've said, do reward folks for sending in ultra modern common crap for grading.... heck, they have bills to pay too ! :devil:

I've seen of ton of crappy ultra modern cents in high grade slabs..... and some nice one's too.... the big delimiter for me, when I was searching new release boxes was:
1 = no rubs (either plancet or post mint,, whatever the heck it is)
and
2 - no spotting (which is much harder to find)

I must have gone through 12--15 boxes of 05's, 06's and 07's before I gave up the quest of ms70's.... of those dozen or so boxes I went through I have saved 10 cents that I believe are very nice... 2 of which have no major rubs, plancet flaws, and no or almost no spots.....,, one day I'll send my 06 in for grading. It is the best of all the boxes and even has booming luster and appealing subtle toning.

My luck, they will give it a MS64 due to strike.

 

Looking forward to seeing the results of the testing.

 

If you look closely at the rather thick "die polish" lines you will see that they run thru the fields and continue thru the devices. Usually die polish lines are fine lines that stop at the devices.

Yes, IMO, it is exhibiting an odd plating anomaly. That is precisely my point and is consistent with the "scratches" shown on OP's orginal photos and would explain in the OP's #29 post, 2nd paragraph;

"As for the source of the marks, I just find it inconceivable that those marks came from any external source. How you can think something is capable of scratching the bust, getting into the gap between the rim and the bust, but not demolish the rim escapes me. BTW, they go right down the edge of the bust into the gap without interruption."

As far as adjustment marks go, I remain with conventional wisdom until GD proves otherwise. He is probably right on the foreign mints practices back then.

I also believe that he is wrong about planchet surface not showing on weak strikes. Just look at the thigh on weakly struck Walkers.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Thats my 2 cents on this discussion.​

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There is not noticeable rub. I think what you are seeing is a fingerprint and glare from light although I did find this coin in my change.

 

OK, here is your explanation per Mike Diamond;

 

LOLOLOL....Indeed!