Guess the grade #346

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by rlm's cents, Apr 11, 2012.

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1938-s NGC Grade?

Poll closed Apr 18, 2012.
  1. Genuine/details

    8.0%
  2. 62

    16.0%
  3. 63

    12.0%
  4. 64

    20.0%
  5. 65

    24.0%
  6. 66

    20.0%
  7. 67

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 68

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I don't know what to say about this one. These marks/rubs are there. Not as noticeable as in the picture, but definitely there with a loupe. Without it, I have no idea if they could see it or not, but I cannot make out the loss of luster without the loupe. Regardless, no one got this one. NGC called it a 67. If they did not see the rub, it is probably a fair grade. Apparently they missed it because there is no way to get a 67 with a rub like that. All I can say is that I will try to stick to some more normal coins at least for a while.

    1938-S NGC 67a SL.JPG
     
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  3. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    By missing these rounds, ddoomm1 has taken the lead and ldhair has rejoined the leaders even though he did go for both the last rounds

    Top 10. Columns are rank, name, average, and number of guesses.
    1. ddoomm1 0.313 34
    2. ldhair 0.368 21
    3. BadThad 0.400 42
    4. rzage 0.485 35
    5. Leadfoot 0.488 45
    6. Shoewrecky 0.524 44
    7. mark_h 0.533 47
    8. jcakcoin 0.565 48
    9. swhuck 0.604 50
    10. Cazkaboom 0.628 45
     
  4. capercaillie

    capercaillie New Member

    MS-67 on that one? I think that grader has looked at too many coins through loops and now probably is in need of an eye exam! Either that or came into work drunk.
     
  5. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    WOW, just WOW!
     
  6. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    boy do I pick the wrong rounds to play... off the map for the 1st time since the thread started....
    Time to reset and get back my swing.
     
  7. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Wow I'm dropping like a rock . :) Wonder if I'll be in the top ten next week . Dick it's coins like these that we learn quite a bit on .
     
  8. swhuck

    swhuck Junior Member

    A net grade. That's NGC's story and they're sticking to it. (note tongue planted in cheek)

    Wow...
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Stewart, That's quite an old slab. I'll wager it looked nothing like that when graded, and I'm not sure we should presume anything about NGC from this thread. Respectfully...Mike
     
  10. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    But Mike , what does an old slab have to do with the scuff marks on the obverse . I could see carbon spots forming in that time but not rub .
     
  11. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Despite what RLM says, that looks like toning to me not rub. That's the only way for me to explain the 67 grade. That or NGC flat out messed that one up, which I find highly unlikely but certainly possible.
     
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I don't know about that. It sure looks like a rub to me. However, I do not see it without the loupe. Any reason they would not have called that "cabinet friction"?
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I would think that anything with friction would not have garnered the 67 grade, that's essentially my point.

    Could it happen? Sure.

    Likely? I don't think so.

    I do think that if you cracked that coin and send it in as-is there's no way it would get a 67 again.

    But what do I know, I'm just a TPG-apologist. ;)
     
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