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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 865288, member: 112"]Mark the problem I have with CAC is this - they tend to grade the same basic way that the TPGs do. In other words, if a coin type (And incuse Indian gold is one of those types.) that has unmistakable luster breaks, not only on the high points but in the fields as well, is typically graded as MS, then CAC will make the call that it is MS as well. Now I really wouldn't expect anything else. After all, it is deemed to be market accpetable in today's world. But there are, without a doubt, a great many AU coins out there that are graded as MS because of this. 20, 25 years ago that never would have happenened. I might even go so far as to say that 8 to 10 years ago it very seldom happened. In recent years it happens all too often. And so you understand a bit more about me, I grade by a strict interpretation of ANA standards.[/QUOTE]