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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 918139, member: 112&quot;]Ya know Paul it might help if you&#039;d read what I actually say - </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>There is a vast difference between saying &quot;they can be&quot; and saying &quot;they are&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Several points here - why is it unlikely ? It is a <u>fact</u> that all business strike coins were shoveled into the mint bags, every single one. It is a <u>fact</u> that some of those coins were damaged by those shovels, it is completely unavoidable. It is a <u>fact</u> that the worst marks on those coins could not have been made by another coin falling onto them. Your&#039;re a metalurgist, do the math for yourself. You know what the hardness of the metal is. Determine the height necessary for a coin to fall from to create a cut that deep. Measure the arc on a coin and then measure the mark.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is a <u>fact</u> that if the marks could not have been made by another coin then they absolutely must be caused by something else. And if they are caused by something else then the worst of those marks must by definition be damage.</p><p><br /></p><p>And no Paul, I am not saying it&#039;s a conspiracy. It&#039;s the TPG ignoring the rules. They put the stuff out there and see if the market accepts it. Which apparently it does based on this thread. It is a case of people having more faith in the TPG than they do their own eyes and common sense. That&#039;s what drinking the koolaid is Paul - believing it just because &quot;they&quot; said so.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another point - in your own poll on this 2 out of 38 people agreed with the 65 grade. In other words 95% think the TPG was wrong in their estimate of grade. </p><p><br /></p><p>So if the TPG was wrong on the grade and that is accepted as being true - why then is it so hard to believe that they were not also wrong about that coin being damaged ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Now a question for you on a slightly different subject. Earlier you accused me of &quot;trying to save face&quot; and refusing to admit I was wrong. But the facts, not opinions, the facts, support my position Paul. What facts do you have ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, anybody who reads this forum knows another fact. That fact is that when I make a mistake I have no problem stepping up and admitting I was wrong. So why would it be any different in this case ? Saving face doesn&#039;t matter to me Paul, it never has. Only the truth matters to me.</p><p><br /></p><p>By the way, when the last time <u><b>you</b> ever</u> admitted you were wrong on this forum ?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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