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<p>[QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 1933137, member: 37839"]Talk about being argumentative for the sake of prolonging an argument. THE COIN IS NOT CIRCULATED--it has contact marks, much as a Morgan Dollar does. Are all Morgans with contact marks worn, and thus AU at best? By your standards, a coin would have to be MS 70 in order to be MS--it would need to be devoid of any contact that occurred due to storage with other coins. Talk about being inflexible--the whole idea is to establish a standard, and then use common sense within it. You are NOT using common sense, Doug. </p><p><br /></p><p>Gold is a soft metal, and shows all contact quite obviously. This coin that has been depicted is so obviously uncirculated---it defines a gem gold coin. Were it to be totally free of any kind of mark, it would be MS 70, and nobody even suggests that. There are some minor contact marks that are acceptable to PCGS (based on the aforementioned standard), and they're a lot more knowledgeable than you are, Doug. No offense, but you're a former collector, being absolutely hard-line for the sake of proving that you can do so. Is that realistic, or beneficial for the less experienced collectors who might buy this line of illogic? No it isn't and it shows in the "guess the grade" contests across the board. You may call it "market grading" or mistakes from TPGs, or whatever, but this is the established standard, and given the established standard, YOU ARE WRONG.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 1933137, member: 37839"]Talk about being argumentative for the sake of prolonging an argument. THE COIN IS NOT CIRCULATED--it has contact marks, much as a Morgan Dollar does. Are all Morgans with contact marks worn, and thus AU at best? By your standards, a coin would have to be MS 70 in order to be MS--it would need to be devoid of any contact that occurred due to storage with other coins. Talk about being inflexible--the whole idea is to establish a standard, and then use common sense within it. You are NOT using common sense, Doug. Gold is a soft metal, and shows all contact quite obviously. This coin that has been depicted is so obviously uncirculated---it defines a gem gold coin. Were it to be totally free of any kind of mark, it would be MS 70, and nobody even suggests that. There are some minor contact marks that are acceptable to PCGS (based on the aforementioned standard), and they're a lot more knowledgeable than you are, Doug. No offense, but you're a former collector, being absolutely hard-line for the sake of proving that you can do so. Is that realistic, or beneficial for the less experienced collectors who might buy this line of illogic? No it isn't and it shows in the "guess the grade" contests across the board. You may call it "market grading" or mistakes from TPGs, or whatever, but this is the established standard, and given the established standard, YOU ARE WRONG.[/QUOTE]
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