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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;medoraman, post: 1932720, member: 26302&quot;]I have better things to do than read 7 pages of a thread HOPING to get what you wish for me from it. No, its not laziness on my part, but laziness on your part of letting me know what the heck your point is.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding this coin. I was pretty dang clear I was not talking about this coin. I said it a couple of times at least in my posts.</p><p><br /></p><p>Btw, I did tell you how I distinguish roll friction from wear, look at the contact points under a loupe. If there are scratch marks, metal tear marks, etc that is what roll friction looks like. It looks just like you think it would look if two coins rubbed metal together at a 90 degree angle. Wear looks rounded, and going into the fields, where roll friction, (at least from real rolls), are high point marks only and not going into lower fields.</p><p><br /></p><p>So:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. If you wish to make a point, please make it and not ask me to randomly read a 7 page thread</p><p>2. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MATT&#039;s COIN!</p><p>3. Roll friction is real, I have seen it numerous times, but many things people call &quot;roll friction&quot; today is wear. Roll friction is not cabinet friction. </p><p><br /></p><p>Btw, I would not doubt many/most St Gauden&#039;s exhibit high point wear. Most of these were in bags in Europe or South America until recently, and not treated gently. I will admit I have never seen roll friction on gold, and maybe it does look very much like wear. I am not pretending to know very much about gold coins, only starting to buy them fairly recently. Look back at THIS thread Paul, I was not the one suggesting Matt&#039;s coin was AU, or anything like that. I am simply agreeing that there is a lot of worn coins being certified as MS nowadays, with the excuse being &quot;cabinet friction&quot;, when this is unprovable.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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