Guess the grade--1924 NGC St. Gaudens Double Eagle

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Lehigh96, Dec 8, 2008.

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Guess the Grade

  1. AU55*

    6.7%
  2. AU58*

    20.0%
  3. MS60*

    6.7%
  4. MS61*

    6.7%
  5. MS62*

    11.1%
  6. MS63*

    33.3%
  7. MS64*

    15.6%
  1. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    The nose looks un-touched.
     
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  3. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Damn I'm convinced. Still want that eye.
     
  4. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Aberdeen here.
     
  5. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Well then what is a 58. Is that like a payday grade.
     
  6. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    That was not so nice.
     
  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Cheech, do you realize that the posts you are replying to are from 2008?
     
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  8. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yep. Buy the coin
     
  9. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Nope. Oops again. I'm a damn fool.
     
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  10. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I got to get a calander
     
  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Oops...o_O
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    A valid point about which part of his comments ? Ya see, wear can easily be distinguished from a weak strike by those who know how. And on that coin it's wear. Even Paul said so and he has/had the coin in hand.

    So how do ya tell wear from weak strike ? It's actually simple but most just aren't aware of it. It's the texture and color that allows you to do so. A weakly struck area will have a certain texture to it, it'll be rough and bumpy to a limited degree. This is because the metal is being pushed up, or down, (depending on which side you're talking about) in an effort to fill the recesses in the die. But the metal never quite gets there because there just ins't enough pressure for it to do so. The end result is that slightly rough and bumpy texture in the weakly struck area. You have to look close to see it but it'll be there every single time - if it's a weakly struck area. The second diagnostic is color. A weakly struck area will be, usually, greyish in color, or at the least a bit darker in shade than the rest of the coin that has luster. And that's the 3rd diagnostic of a weakly struck area - there will be no luster there. That's because the metal in that location never touched the die so it never had a chance to flow and create the luster there.

    With wear, it's a little different. The area will be darker than the rest of the coin that has luster, again usually greyish in color - and that grey will be slightly darker than a weakly struck area will be - just slightly. So it takes experience to be able to recognize the color difference when you see it. And of course there will be no luster in an area with wear. And, there will be no texture to the surface. It will smooth, often even flat, depending on degree.

    And that, well that's why he doesn't make a valid point, at least on that specific issue.

    Understand Cheech ?
     
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  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Thanks for sharing. I just saw that today on another coin. (silver) the room said weak strike. I'll be damned if it wasn't the exact same of your explanation. Spot on!!!!! Thanks for your time.
     
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