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Message:: [QUOTE="huntsman53, post: 299680, member: 1242"]Mike, No, I don't disagree with you about PCGS rattlers! I look at it this way (and I also try to stay open-minded), that folks (Coin Collectors and Dealers) tend to treat slabs from the better TPG's with much more care. I have seen Coin Dealers at Coin Shows open a plastic storage container and literally throw in coins slabbed by NNC, NTC and PCI when they were packing up. However, their' PCGS slabbed coins were handled much differently and packed with more care into smaller, hard boxes with all kinds of padding inside. I grant you that my experience with PCGS slabbed coins that have impact damage, is very limited but I have seen and owned a few. At the last local Coin Show in Knoxville, I tried to purchase a 1909 VDB Cent that was graded MS-66 RD for a lower price by pointing out to the Dealer that the coin was nowhere near a MS-66 but more like a MS-63. However, the Dealer would not come off the price. Now, whether the reason for such a disparity was due to impact damage or not, is uncertain. Well, the same Dealer was selling raw 1907 Indian Head Cents as MS-64 RD's for $105 each but you could tell that they had been dipped in something because they had the color of a newly minted and uncirculated 2007-P Lincoln Cent, if that tells you something! Frank P.S. I am also sorry Speedy for getting on and carrying on with this topic![/QUOTE]