There are also diffused light pics on the auction that make the reverse look better, but the obverse looks just as bad. So I gotta say I think PCGS got it wrong on this one. What do you guys/gals think?
well I cant believe it's a 65...i have a few more Morgans graded by NGC that are MS-63 and 64 that I feel are equal too or better than that condition.
Without seeing the coin in hand, there is no way to second guess PCGS on this one. The coin is ugly but IMO, there is not way to tell the difference between toning, luster grazes, and contact marks on this coin in the photograph. I guessed MS64 but MS65 does not surprise me at all. Had the coin been prettier, I might have deemed it a gem myself.
Is it possible for a morgan to get ms-65 even if it has hideous brown toning? IMO opinion, if this cc got this a ms-65 an ugly looking brown toned morgan should get the same.
I suspect it looks much different in hand. I have a purchase from last month, a PCGS65 1880-S in just a lighter tone of the approximate color, and no matter what lighting I use, it always looks like this one. In hand, it is very appealing, but the photos are not near as nice. I even took photos then to show, but decided to spare its feelings on my inadequate photos So this one may be a lot better. Of course it cost many times more than my common 80-S. Jim
I would have NEVER graded that coin MS-65. Period. End of Paragraph. way too many marks on the cheek and face