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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1943421, member: 112&quot;]It&#039;s been explained many times over the years, I&#039;ve explained it myself half a dozen times or so. But back to your other question.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Coin to coin contact - think about that for a minute. I say to think about because it&#039;s as if people seem to think that coin to coin contact inside a mint bag is somehow different, somehow special, and that&#039;s why it doesn&#039;t count. But when you actually stop and think, wear due to coin to coin contact is most common form of wear there is. Coins in your pocket, coins are rubbing against other coins. Coins in a cash drawer, coins against coins. Coins in purse or change purse, coins against coins. Coins in a change jar, coins against coins. Coins spend their entire existence rubbing against other coins. And all of them causing wear on each other. Almost all of the wear there is on coins, comes from those coins rubbing against other coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>So what&#039;s so special about the coins being in a canvass bag rubbing against each other that that wear should not count as wear ? Is that canvass bag somehow different than the inside of your pants pocket ? Or different than the inside of a change purse. I submit to you that it is not any different at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>But yet some people want to claim that it is different because it is a &quot;mint bag&quot;. Well so what ! OK, it&#039;s a mint bag, but saying it&#039;s a mint bag and therefore any wear that occurs inside it doesn&#039;t count as &quot;real wear&quot; is ridiculous. Why is it ridiculous ? Well again, stop and think. </p><p><br /></p><p>At the moment when coins are ejected from the mint press that&#039;s the very definition of them being as new, as uncirculated, as they can ever be. Nobody will ever dispute that. But before they are 1 second old, and I mean that quite literally, what&#039;s the very next thing that happens to those coins ? The next thing that happens is that those new fresh coins fall into a hopper on top of thousands of other coins just like them. And when those coins fall on top of each other they leave contact marks behind on the coins. And those marks happened, occurred, right there inside the mint. And those coins are still MS. Nobody will ever dispute that.</p><p><br /></p><p>But here&#039;s the kicker. Have you ever, ever, heard anybody claim that those contact marks don&#039;t count against the grade of that coin because they occurred inside the mint ? The answer is a resounding NO !</p><p><br /></p><p>Well why not ? Of course the answer is obvious, it&#039;s because there is absolutely no way to prove that those contacts marks that occurred inside the mint, actually occurred inside the mint because those contact marks are no different than any subsequent contact marks that occur outside the mint. The only thing that matters is that the marks are there, on the coin. It doesn&#039;t matter when or how they occurred.</p><p><br /></p><p>That is the fallacy, that is the ridiculous part about this claim that wear that occurs inside a mint bag, or a coin roll, or inside a coin album, or whatever, somehow doesn&#039;t count. Of course it counts - it&#039;s there, on the coin ! Just like marks are marks, no matter where or how they occur, wear is wear no matter where or how it occurs.</p><p><br /></p><p>Coin to coin contact doesn&#039;t matter because coin to coin contact is the primary source of wear for all coins. Being inside a mint bag doesn&#039;t matter because if marks that occur at the mint matter, then wear that occurs inside a mint bag matters too.</p><p><br /></p><p>And that&#039;s why I say it&#039;s an excuse, and nothing but an excuse, and one pulled out of thin air at that, to grade coins that are really AU as being MS. I mean what else could you call it except an excuse ?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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