Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BigTee44, Jul 8, 2016.
1864 2 cent.
The rest all got stickered.
Thanks @C-B-D for sending these to CAC for me.
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With the stain all over the neck? No, it's my lack of grading skills. CAC and NGC & PCGS set the standards for the market.
I voted on the 2 cent piece only because of the blue. I love the look but there will always be that big question in folks minds about blue copper. Opinions will always be all over the place on what is real.
It's not a stain. It's gunk. When I sent this in for grading they removed some of the gunk on the Eagles left(our right) wing so they were able to see the wear.
I thought about NCS but figured they wouldn't touch. I should have soaked it in acetone. Submitted it before I ever tried using acetone
That's an opinion we share. Seems CAC and NGC disagreed on the origin of the color.
The 1840 was actually the one I dismissed immediately as a candidate for failure - there doesn't appear to be the slightest wear on the shields, and it seemed to me to be possibly undergraded, much less Green Bean-eligible.
I figured it to be one of the silver Minors as they're so difficult to strike up fully, and difficult to differentiate wear from strike. Opinion can easily vary on them.
Good point! A while back,"blue" copper was returned in a "body bag." When "detail" grading started, most were slabbed as "artificial color." Today, "blue copper is considered "gemmy" adding eye appeal. It can be removed in seconds with no chemicals.
So you think I should crack it and NCS it?
NO!!!!!!!!!!! Call me a buttinsky...
As it sits, more people will want it. One group for the color, one group who will crack it and remove the color. If you remove the "blue," you'll lose one group!
Besides, WHAT DO YOU LIKE? That's all that counts.
I meant the 1840 Half.
I've no right to ever question something someone might do to allay their neuroses.
Not the 1840. It's acquired too much patina away from any crud, and is not an appropriate candidate for conservation. Nice, original-skin coin at the top of its' grade group, and quite pleasing just as it is.
If you're referring to the Two Cent, I dunno. The color should be reversible, but it's already been pronounced "good" by a TPG and probably best to leave well enough alone. We don't actually know CAC's reasons for declining to sticker it.
Well if I could NCS it and get a 50 that might be worth it, plus if there's any type of premium for the overdate I'd need to resubmit it so it was on the label. Probably not worth it though.
So here they are. Better pics taken tonight
Still think it's AU58? I think she's a stunner! I snapped a quick pic before mailing her back to BigTee. Not my best work by far, but shows the luster.
Nice photo! No, only a fool would sell/grade that coin as an AU; however, it is a coin that does not meet my standards for MS-64 money.
So what's that say about the company that graded it as a XF40
Who graded what a 40?
What company was that and how long ago did they grade it?
BTW, the unique 1870-S Seated Liberty H10C was graded XF-45 when it was first discovered in the 1970's. Today it resides in an Unc-something Major TPGS slab. Funny things can happen in forty-five years.
Oh, I'll add that IMHO it was graded correctly to prevailing standards both times although I have not seen the actual coin since it was "lightened."
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