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<p>[QUOTE="Delmer, post: 240483, member: 8219"]The contest is CLOSED to entrys. Feel free to estimate but it will not be considered if it was posted after 9PM EST.</p><p><br /></p><p>The PRIZE is a half roll of 1969 S cents!</p><p><br /></p><p>First, the numismatic tie-in is weak at best.. but I think substantial enough to eek a contest thread out of it. The bronze releif art has similar if not the same artwork as on a so-called dollar, and the artist did more than a few engravings for tokens and the like.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some info is inside this CT thread.. please post CONTEST REALATED QUESTIONS in the contest thread.. not over there or I might miss it for a day..</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=25779" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=25779" rel="nofollow">http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=25779</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The basic idea is to try to mail the appraisel that I'll get from the people at the Antiques Roadshow. Use the info in the thread above, and the extra info below. </p><p><br /></p><p>The only rules are: You CANNOT EDIT your estimate. If your estimate post has an edit to it, I'll just take a 50 dollar handycap from you. Try to NOT bias your estimate based on others estimates unless you really ARE just guessing (whick is okay.. this is for fun). Once an estimate is posted, a range of $25 either way is OFF LIMITS to other guessers. This is so no one guesses one dollar more than someone else. the one who is CLOSEST to the HIGH RANGE ESTIMATE (I'm pretty sure they estimate using a range) WINS! </p><p><br /></p><p>These are in wood frames with what looks like guild paint, with light spatters of red speckle on the gold (obviously done on purpouse by the framers). I think I said some of these things in the other post but the bronze is about 1/2 inch thick, they are maybe 15" x 12" not including frame. The images are of the busts, and the respective vessiles. They both say on front "COPYRIGHT 1909 ROINE WEIL" and the petina on one of them liike like someone attempted to clean it in a softball sized area in center.. long ago. It is slightly cleaned. No scratches at all or dings etc. The back has a tiny incused Q### (where ### is I think 197 on one and 198 on the other I'll have to doublecheck, they are put away). Give a read to what these 2 men, especially Fulton, did during their time. These are from the time of the Hudson tercentennial, and the fulton centennial celebration, held together in NYC for over 10 days in 1909. There was another celebration in 1959 I beleive. There is one planned in 2009 (see the other thread link above for more)</p><p><br /></p><p>Again, these are the ONLY pictures of these you will find on the entire internet. In fact the first one to find ANY pictures or refferences to these specifically will get a duplicate prize as the contest winner straight off. As far as I am able to find, these are the largest non public display bronze pieces comemmorating these men. I can find NO online evidence that there is even another set.. but (and heres a value clue) the Q numbers that Gorham used are known to indicate that these were NOT privately contracted one of a kind pieces. The best they are is 1 of 2 pairs.. likely much more though. Research the process used to create them during 1908.. it's interesting.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, to reiterate.. if you guess $230, you OWN $205-$255. If someone else guesses $170, then logically another person can guess 200 and 200 is still an available guess.. but the range is shortened.</p><p><br /></p><p>good luck!</p><p><br /></p><p>PRIZE TBA!! CONTEST ENDS THE 15th 9pm EST.</p><p><br /></p><p>DOUBLE BONUS.. I will try my best to work in the screen name of the first 2 guessers into any filming they do of me... haha</p><p><br /></p><p>EDIT: Estimate the HIGH range price FOR THE PAIR.. I think that's the best way to estimate the value. If you estimated PER PIECE or "each" I'll just double your estimate for the pair unless you edit your estimate. Example: and estimate of "120 for the pair" will WIN if the appraisel is actually "in the $60 - $140 range".[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Delmer, post: 240483, member: 8219"]The contest is CLOSED to entrys. Feel free to estimate but it will not be considered if it was posted after 9PM EST. The PRIZE is a half roll of 1969 S cents! First, the numismatic tie-in is weak at best.. but I think substantial enough to eek a contest thread out of it. The bronze releif art has similar if not the same artwork as on a so-called dollar, and the artist did more than a few engravings for tokens and the like. Some info is inside this CT thread.. please post CONTEST REALATED QUESTIONS in the contest thread.. not over there or I might miss it for a day.. [url]http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=25779[/url] The basic idea is to try to mail the appraisel that I'll get from the people at the Antiques Roadshow. Use the info in the thread above, and the extra info below. The only rules are: You CANNOT EDIT your estimate. If your estimate post has an edit to it, I'll just take a 50 dollar handycap from you. Try to NOT bias your estimate based on others estimates unless you really ARE just guessing (whick is okay.. this is for fun). Once an estimate is posted, a range of $25 either way is OFF LIMITS to other guessers. This is so no one guesses one dollar more than someone else. the one who is CLOSEST to the HIGH RANGE ESTIMATE (I'm pretty sure they estimate using a range) WINS! These are in wood frames with what looks like guild paint, with light spatters of red speckle on the gold (obviously done on purpouse by the framers). I think I said some of these things in the other post but the bronze is about 1/2 inch thick, they are maybe 15" x 12" not including frame. The images are of the busts, and the respective vessiles. They both say on front "COPYRIGHT 1909 ROINE WEIL" and the petina on one of them liike like someone attempted to clean it in a softball sized area in center.. long ago. It is slightly cleaned. No scratches at all or dings etc. The back has a tiny incused Q### (where ### is I think 197 on one and 198 on the other I'll have to doublecheck, they are put away). Give a read to what these 2 men, especially Fulton, did during their time. These are from the time of the Hudson tercentennial, and the fulton centennial celebration, held together in NYC for over 10 days in 1909. There was another celebration in 1959 I beleive. There is one planned in 2009 (see the other thread link above for more) Again, these are the ONLY pictures of these you will find on the entire internet. In fact the first one to find ANY pictures or refferences to these specifically will get a duplicate prize as the contest winner straight off. As far as I am able to find, these are the largest non public display bronze pieces comemmorating these men. I can find NO online evidence that there is even another set.. but (and heres a value clue) the Q numbers that Gorham used are known to indicate that these were NOT privately contracted one of a kind pieces. The best they are is 1 of 2 pairs.. likely much more though. Research the process used to create them during 1908.. it's interesting. So, to reiterate.. if you guess $230, you OWN $205-$255. If someone else guesses $170, then logically another person can guess 200 and 200 is still an available guess.. but the range is shortened. good luck! PRIZE TBA!! CONTEST ENDS THE 15th 9pm EST. DOUBLE BONUS.. I will try my best to work in the screen name of the first 2 guessers into any filming they do of me... haha EDIT: Estimate the HIGH range price FOR THE PAIR.. I think that's the best way to estimate the value. If you estimated PER PIECE or "each" I'll just double your estimate for the pair unless you edit your estimate. Example: and estimate of "120 for the pair" will WIN if the appraisel is actually "in the $60 - $140 range".[/QUOTE]
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