Guess the "Antiques Roadshow" appraisel

Del:
I really like the pictures.
My guess would be $1,250 or $2500 + for the pair.
Let me know how much you want for them?
Just kidding, I know no offers to buy or sell in this forum.
(or maybe not! I'm just glad that Satootoko, probably spelled wrong, isn't here to yell at me.)

 

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$2500 for the pair. Just guessing. Got no clue whatsoever. Gonna shuffle along now......

 

I'm going to guess 2,400 for Pair.

Thanks and more importantly - good luck - hope they go much higher...

 

btw Delmer..they are very gorgeous pieces

 

Delmer:
I forgot no editing, I just added the sarcasm at the end.

 

I will guess $2600 for the pair.

 

estimate conflicts

Here are the PAIR estimates (either stated, or assumed by doubling the PER PIECE estimate.)

1000
2200
1800
300
4000

1850 (indianhead re-estimate) < thanks IH. This is what I paid.

3600
1100
1900
5000
2500

2700 (tropher good luck I like this one)

2400
2600

372 silver rounds. ok.. This is what I'll claim I paid for them on TV
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Thanks people.. sorry about all the wording in the original post.. makes it kinds confusing to get all the rules straight.

 

Really! That would be interesting! (and less valuable than the "city hall" pieces I am hoping they are. You mean part of a piece of furniture? I looked up sideboards and thats the jist I got.

Gorgeous.. yeah.. thanks, I like em. Iin person for some reason they are less impressive than in those pictures. Without the right light on them they kinda look rusty.. but they are not at all, they look very interesting under a loop. You gotta be into the history or the metalworking aspect, or the art I guess, to really "get" them. otherwise they're just old brown "paintings" that you might walk by and ignore. I like them MORE becaue of that These would be an AWESOME gift for an older engineer or inventor who was a history buff or an NYC history entheusiest. Not selling in any case.. but i'll consider doing it in about 2009.

 

Just my opinion but Yeah thats what I was thinking they were from. Mainly, because they aren't simple circular reliefs, which during that time period, was the hottest thing for artists to be making.
Sideboards usually had images or portraits hanging above them or on each side.
If they were plaques, they probably would have been bigger and been made of wood.

Did you frame these pieces OR have you seen the back of them?


They may have belonged to a piece like this

http://dlg.galileo.usg.edu/cgi-bin/vanga.cgi?format=photo&query=id:gly191&_cc=1


Certainly will be interesting to hear what they actually are I think they are very kewl

 

$1850 sounds good to me Delmer.

 

That sounds plausible! If that's what they say then you deserve the bonus prize! I'll mention it when they ask "what do I know about them".

Yes the back side is viewable as much as the front, but the frames are locked up very tightly so I don't know what the edges look like. THey came to me framed. One attribute of COPIED bronzework is that the copy is SMALLER than the original because of the molten metal shrinking as it cools. I mean when the original is copied, the CAST wax (or whatever) is the same size as the work, so the resulting poured bronze cools to a smaller size. I have no way of telling if these are the correct size but if they are copies, someone did a great job on the gorham font that makes up the Q number on the back. The Q number is the only marking on back.. otherwise it is a solid pool of bronze.

So it would be really cool to have the design of the original furniture piece.. so I can restore it maybe. I'll look at the fasteners used to make the frame for evidence of modern times. The wire hanger hardware is run through eyelets that are screwed in. They look very aged.

 

I wouldnt pop them open just yet..I could be 100% wrong.

I use to watch the Antiques Roadshow alot. Got pretty good at guessing value, but that was ages ago.
One thing I do remember is a couple times they saw art pieces, like small portraits etc and the person was told they originally belonged on the front of a cabinet door, grandfather clock etc.

They are unique pieces and Im anxious to hear the results. I use to love it when the person would say "its been in my garage/attic for years" then they are told the piece is worth 150,000.00..lol

 

Instead of editing - just let me have 2700. I didn't see that 2500 was taken when I posted. I guess I should've opened my eyes, lol.

 

Based on my extensive knowledge of round things, I'm going to guess $372.

 

Yep.. ok Tropher..got it. I'll update the big list tomorrow when theres more entries. long drive today and I'm beat.

Karrlot.. that IS extensive.. a Scott-372 is rectangular though (If that wasn't a refferance to the HF stamp commonly collected, you might want to play 372 in the lottery because you nailed it)

Twiggs,No worries.. theres no way I'm taking the frame off unless I know it's someone's poor attempt at counterfeiting an aged frame.

a friend is coming with me, he has something called a "Piano lamp" He says it'll make it on TV.

I'll be back from the show by maybe 2 or 3pm eastern US time and I'll post right away. I didn't post my guess.. Since none of my research really turned anything up I'm going with what I paid for them at the estate auction I got them from.. I'll reveal that .. maybe .. depending on how embarassed I am

 

My estimate is for the pair.

No, I don't know nuthin' 'bout collectin' no fancy postage stamps.

It was a very scientific estimate. Looking at other round things, they are about half way between the size of a bouncy ball ($.75) and the tire on my car which had to have the break pads, callipurs, roters, disks, drums, tie rods, widgets, thingamaggies, cupplings, and who-da-whats replaced ($743).

Scientifically speaking, if they are half way between in size, then they must be halfway between in cost. Science is easy!!

Mind you, if I did not known so much about round things, I may have had to guess some crazy amount like $409.Wouldn't that have been funny!!

 

Maybe Delmer is waiting for them to photo him for the closeup shot!

It is 2:50 P.S. + right now.

 

No more entrys after this point! Don't edit your posts please!

The prize is a half roll of uncirrculated 1969 S cents! Reportedly unsearched.. and I will NOT search them.

lol Karlott.. fair enough.

Lemme know if you ever use that science to sell some coins

I updated the previous list of estimates. If I missed someone please yell!

 

So, Did you get on TV?

 

Um.. Nope I won't be on TV... The short reason is because it wouldn't be entertaining at all.. because the appraisers were unfamiliar with the works.

Indianhead gets the WIN!

I don't want to rip their system.. it accomplishes their goal of having people bring them material for a show.. I guess I shouldn't have expected that they would have detailed knowlege on my piece as much as they have for the pieces that make it on TV. The 2 people in the "metalwork" section learned 8 things from me and I learned 2 from them. They had never seen what I had, could not put a firm value on it with their combined resources.. but DID tell me that someone had attempted to clean them a little, and they gave be the name of the fellow who owns the archives of the Gorham company. where they say I can get an appraisel and possibly sales records since they are serialized. Oh they also said that the frames were from the 50's.

There was about one person per 5 seconds being let into the group of appraisers. They gotta figure SOMEONE is going to bring in a piece that one of the appraisers get overly excited about. I guess the theory is that if the appraisers just aren't familiar with something.. it probably isn't worth getting too excited about... and theres no WAY that any piece they're not familiar with gets on TV. I didn't even stay to get my 1920 fishing lures looked at.. I envisioned them saying "what are those?". I'll delete the sarcasm after the dissapointment fades. My things are not popular.. so how would appraisers know them on the spot I guess. They use books and alot of research(thats why it costs $350 for an appraisel) to find things and no one had books that I could see.

My buddy's 1800s Piano lamp was appraised at 1500 (he paid 200)... so the day wasn't a total loss.

I'll get ahold of the guy that they suggested and see at least how many of these there are.

So contest over.. The 2 appraisers listened to what I paid -1850- and said reluctantly "yeah, that's probably okay". CONGRATS INDIANHEAD.. PM me your address for your nearly 40 year old copper!