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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;medoraman, post: 4612067, member: 26302&quot;]Its a flaw in the designation of the grading system. The US grading system made an artificial contrivance to split coins into two groups, Uncirculated and circulated. This is the fundamental error. Granted, it works perfectly well for 99% of the coins, a XF is inferior to 99.9% of coins that have not seen circulation wear given machine minting. However, it fails when you have coins without wear but other negative things like bag marks. Why is a &quot;bag mark&quot; not graded like wear marks? </p><p><br /></p><p>Nearly every collectible field I know of start with what the &quot;thing&quot; would be like in perfect condition, then deduct points from there. WHY are US coins different? Go to a car show, and if a fender was painted poorly or if it has a nick from a rock or if it rubbed off with wind it DOES NOT MATTER. Points will be deducted REGARDLESS OF REASON. </p><p><br /></p><p>I agree really with [USER=78244]@TypeCoin971793[/USER] suggestion of a AU65 system, which is EXACTLY what I am advocating. Do away with MS or AU altogether, just grade a number, and call a coin a 65 or a 55 on its merits. I still believe poorly struck pieces should be less than 60 at times, or bag marked coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Btw [USER=78244]@TypeCoin971793[/USER] &quot;laughable&quot;? Are you an expert in ancient coin grading? My hobby has developed and been grading coins for centuries before the US was a country. I do not believe DEMEANING another area of numismatics is productive do you? You want to get into a discussion of why we grade why we grade, we can, but please try to remain civil if its possible for you. Your Athenian tet example would ONLY every be labeled &quot;mint state&quot; by a US slabber, NEVER by us. Your example NGC, (who won&#039;t even guarantee authenticity btw), might call &quot;mint state&quot; we might grade VF, and we would be RIGHT.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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