GTG Robert E Lee. CSA Half Dollar.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Pickin and Grinin, Jun 3, 2023.


What is the grade of this CSA

  1. AU

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  2. Slider MS60 to MS63

  3. MS64

  4. MS65

  5. MS66

  6. MS67

  7. PL

  8. DPL

    0 vote(s)
  9. +*

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  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I have been eyeing this Half dollar for a while now.
    It has been in his case for a good couple of years.
    His price has come down on it, and I bargained him a bit better.
    Anyways please vote in the poll and further explain your grade or opinion below.
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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Don't see any wear
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  4. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It looks like a MS 64 to 65 coin— right on the border of gem grade MS. I would call it PL, given the striations, and cameo like contrast. It has classic die polish striations on both the obverse and reverse. My grade would then be MS 65 PL.
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  5. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I voted MS-66, assuming that the vertical lines are die polishing marks and not cleaning or post strike marks.
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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I agree. I just agree guys, that's all folks!
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  7. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I like this even more now that I had to look it up. I had never seen this piece before. I am in at 65.
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I believe that they are so called dollars.
    If anyone has a reference that would be great.
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  9. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    I went 64 but believe it could be higher. The pictures make it look like there are enough marks in the fields to keep it from being higher.

    I have one of these as well.
  10. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    63 for yours is my guess @Pickin and Grinin coins gets 64+
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  11. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    I'll share after @Pickin and Grinin posts his grade.
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  12. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    One of these Robert E. Lee medals was featured in the 1958 television program "Yancy Derringer - The Loot from Richmond". It was used to portray a "Confederate Half Dollar".

    "Yancy Derringer - The Loot from Richmond" - Robert E. Lee medal obverse

    More information on the television program:

  13. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I will have to look for that episode of “Yancy Derringer.” I have the series on DVD. I don’t remember that one, but I’m getting old.

    It’s pure fiction, of course. All four of the Confederate half dollars were in the hands of known owners at the time. Also, the only Confederate general who appeared on a piece of Confederate money was Stone Wall Jackson who was on the 1864 $500 dollar bill. Many Confederate politicians appeared on their money, however, which tells you something.

    It’s interesting to note that there are claims that no one knows what happened to the Confederate treasury in gold. After listening to a lecture on John Breckenridge’s flight from the Union Army at the end of the war, he might have used a substantial part of it to buy boats and aid during his journey with a couple of other people. He ultimately managed to get to Cuba from the south coast of Florida on a ricked little boat.
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  14. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 67....quite clean and no major distraction; I believe many of these look PL or DPL but NGC does not always give the designation. Yours looks at least PL but I'm guessing NGC did not give it anything.
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  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    So-called half dollars ...
    here is a thread and a nice summary from member "commems":

    "Charles E. Smith was a Boston coin dealer. I don't believe he was a big dealer or a "market maker" as I've not seen ads of his in the primary numismatic publication of the time - the ANA's The Numismatist. (This is just conjecture on my part, however.)

    At the time Smith's medals were issued, the US Congress was putting the brakes on US commemorative half dollar coins. Smith may have believed he could fill a void in the marketplace by creating commemorative medals that were roughly the same size; Smith's medals were slightly larger at 32 mm in diameter to avoid running afoul of the US Government.

    You mentioned that the 1947 issues can "sometimes be found in Mehgrig album pages." At the time of issue, Smith contracted with Wayte Raymond, the originator of such boards, to create a page for the eight-piece set and to use "So-Called Half Dollars" as the title for it. Mehgrig may have reprinted the board after the original Wayte Raymond supply was sold out; they did so with many of the other Wayte Raymond pages. In the 1960s, Capital Plastics also produced three-piece plastic holders for these medals.

    The Battle of Lexington, the Daniel Boone, the Lindbergh, the Antarctic Expedition and the Pony Express pieces were all originally issued prior to 1947; Whitehead and Hoag re-struck these medals for Smith from the dies they had used in prior years."
  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    A genuine coin is worth tens of thousands of dollars.

    A Scott restrike coin is worth a few thousand as they were made in the 1880’s using the original reverse die.

    A replica coin is modern and struck as a souvenir. Only worth a few dollars.

    A Silver art round is worth its weight in silver.

    A Replica with the word COPY is barely worth a few dollars.
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  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info @ddddd very cool to see the coin was featured in the movie @willieboyd2 I will have to look that one up.
    I will wait till this evening for the reveal. Probably right before the finals game 2.
    Go Nuggets.
  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Now I think I guessed to low for your.
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  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It's a technical gem going away. But IDK, sometimes they market grade a funny for strong die polish lines.
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  20. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    1861 Confed Rest All.jpg

    Here is the Scott "restrike" of the Confederate half dollar. This as close as I will get to owning one.
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  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Sorry Folks I got a little distracted last evening.
    The grade is MS65 PL. It's hard to measure the mirrors on this one because it isn't raw. But I can read text from about 6-7 inches.
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