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<p>[QUOTE="Paddy54, post: 2752545, member: 19250"]Well first of all with a mintage of 268,000 business strikes and a 1000 proof strikes.</p><p>The 1860 business strikes working dies are unknown . Die varieties none verified. There is one known as a counterfeit specimen which this isn't . </p><p>Now when it come to the surfaces at first I thought cleaned. But now looking at the coin and reading up on the year I don't think so. I see some nice clashes the one in the date almost makes one to believe it's an repunched date. Especially the 1 and 8 as there's what looks to be a repunched digits . . </p><p>Now with both the obv.and rev. Dies unknown I'm leaning towards a pair of dies reworked or polished the would account for all the lines seen on the surface . This date is scarce in circulated grades,rare in ms grades up to 65.....however very rare above 65 . The 1860 strikes range from weak to full strikes. The luster for this date for this date is normally above average and is also noted for some satiny to frosty luster. </p><p>From what I've found I can see this date minted from a set of dies reworked . I find it funny that it's either my eyes or the clashes but again the date looks repunched and again none noted in the reference for this date. Now looking at the stars placements are 100% correct but no notations of re cut stars. Again to my eyes I'm seeing recut stars and a reworked die. Since there are no known die marriage of this date I believe that the lines in question are from polishing of the dies. And also they were heavily clashed.</p><p>When I was looking at this early this morning I had it as a 62 and leaning towards details ..... but now still in the lower mid 60's grade range and not cleaned.</p><p>I do find it interesting that no dies pairs can be matched, maybe so due to the brink of the civil war. </p><p>That also could account for reworked dies.</p><p>1855 was a lower mintage but the years 56,57.58. did have significant mintages, over 1 to 1.5 millions minted. Then the 59 mintage's began to be cut back under 1/2 million . </p><p>With mintage's being reduced,pending war, To me it makes sense that the dies were recycled and reworked. Thus making well struck coins polishing lines transfer to the specimen giving the appearance of being cleaned.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Paddy54, post: 2752545, member: 19250"]Well first of all with a mintage of 268,000 business strikes and a 1000 proof strikes. The 1860 business strikes working dies are unknown . Die varieties none verified. There is one known as a counterfeit specimen which this isn't . Now when it come to the surfaces at first I thought cleaned. But now looking at the coin and reading up on the year I don't think so. I see some nice clashes the one in the date almost makes one to believe it's an repunched date. Especially the 1 and 8 as there's what looks to be a repunched digits . . Now with both the obv.and rev. Dies unknown I'm leaning towards a pair of dies reworked or polished the would account for all the lines seen on the surface . This date is scarce in circulated grades,rare in ms grades up to 65.....however very rare above 65 . The 1860 strikes range from weak to full strikes. The luster for this date for this date is normally above average and is also noted for some satiny to frosty luster. From what I've found I can see this date minted from a set of dies reworked . I find it funny that it's either my eyes or the clashes but again the date looks repunched and again none noted in the reference for this date. Now looking at the stars placements are 100% correct but no notations of re cut stars. Again to my eyes I'm seeing recut stars and a reworked die. Since there are no known die marriage of this date I believe that the lines in question are from polishing of the dies. And also they were heavily clashed. When I was looking at this early this morning I had it as a 62 and leaning towards details ..... but now still in the lower mid 60's grade range and not cleaned. I do find it interesting that no dies pairs can be matched, maybe so due to the brink of the civil war. That also could account for reworked dies. 1855 was a lower mintage but the years 56,57.58. did have significant mintages, over 1 to 1.5 millions minted. Then the 59 mintage's began to be cut back under 1/2 million . With mintage's being reduced,pending war, To me it makes sense that the dies were recycled and reworked. Thus making well struck coins polishing lines transfer to the specimen giving the appearance of being cleaned.[/QUOTE]
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