Gtg Pcgs gave this barber half

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Vegas Vic, Nov 30, 2014.

  1. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The scratches on the face are on the coin. The rest are on the holder. I can make them all go away in a different image.;)
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It sounds like what you want is the same thing I want, and what I have written about and suggested that we have for many years now. In simple terms, that being a single universal set of published grading standards that is used and followed by everybody, including all TPGs, and all collectors and dealers. And that this set of grading standards remain static, unchanging. And that there are no grade bumps for toning, pedigree, value, or rarity.
     
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  4. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Kinda what I thought. I can see the 64 grade then. Both yours and Toms are so far superior to the op coin In my opinion your 2 are accurately graded the first is not. I'd be happy with either of your 2 in my collection the first I just wouldn't buy. I don't feel there should be any reason for a weak struck proof!
     
  5. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I want this as well as well as many of the inconsistencies of the tpgs to end. I don't like paying good money when they only get it right 75% of the time. Granted there will always be some difference due to human error and we could argue for hours at times whether a coin is a 63 or a 64 but overall I'd like more consistancy and less bs grading to get resubmissions from the tpgs
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    That reverse strike sure fooled me. I thought the OP might have mixed up his images. The lighting probably took away some of the detail.
     
  7. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    +1
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yesterday I looked up this date on Heritage, there are many there. And some of them, not a lot and none as bad as this one, also show weakness in the same areas as this coin. So I don't think it's the pictures.
     
  9. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    So, stupid question, if you have a proof coin that shows actual significant wear, what would it grade? Is there such a thing as PR50 or PR45?
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Absolutely.
     
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  11. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Yes. Proof denotes a method of manufacture, but the grade can be anything from 01 through 70. Below is a PR10 that I own-

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  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I saw the same thing Doug, but I don't know much about proof Barber Halves so I wasn't sure.
     
  13. Patrick King

    Patrick King Well-Known Member

    This would be wonderful.
     
  14. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    My guess is a pocket piece as I can't imagine this thing circulating for the 50 years or so without somebody picking it out. Also it has no major dents or scratches that one might expect. A type I've always wanted and actually missed one chance to get one tho.
     
  15. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    Thomas Jefferson was the 3rd US President (1801 - 1809). He collected some Roman coins. Would a cheap & relatively common Roman bronze of say the 2nd or 3rd century AD be worth any more because it was pedigreed to his collection?

    My Ancient coin collecting friend owned such a piece but sold it before I learned the value of a pedigree.
     
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