The scratches on the face are on the coin. The rest are on the holder. I can make them all go away in a different image.
It sounds like what you want is the same thing I want, and what I have written about and suggested that we have for many years now. In simple terms, that being a single universal set of published grading standards that is used and followed by everybody, including all TPGs, and all collectors and dealers. And that this set of grading standards remain static, unchanging. And that there are no grade bumps for toning, pedigree, value, or rarity.
Kinda what I thought. I can see the 64 grade then. Both yours and Toms are so far superior to the op coin In my opinion your 2 are accurately graded the first is not. I'd be happy with either of your 2 in my collection the first I just wouldn't buy. I don't feel there should be any reason for a weak struck proof!
I want this as well as well as many of the inconsistencies of the tpgs to end. I don't like paying good money when they only get it right 75% of the time. Granted there will always be some difference due to human error and we could argue for hours at times whether a coin is a 63 or a 64 but overall I'd like more consistancy and less bs grading to get resubmissions from the tpgs
That reverse strike sure fooled me. I thought the OP might have mixed up his images. The lighting probably took away some of the detail.
Yesterday I looked up this date on Heritage, there are many there. And some of them, not a lot and none as bad as this one, also show weakness in the same areas as this coin. So I don't think it's the pictures.
So, stupid question, if you have a proof coin that shows actual significant wear, what would it grade? Is there such a thing as PR50 or PR45?
Yes. Proof denotes a method of manufacture, but the grade can be anything from 01 through 70. Below is a PR10 that I own-
My guess is a pocket piece as I can't imagine this thing circulating for the 50 years or so without somebody picking it out. Also it has no major dents or scratches that one might expect. A type I've always wanted and actually missed one chance to get one tho.
Thomas Jefferson was the 3rd US President (1801 - 1809). He collected some Roman coins. Would a cheap & relatively common Roman bronze of say the 2nd or 3rd century AD be worth any more because it was pedigreed to his collection? My Ancient coin collecting friend owned such a piece but sold it before I learned the value of a pedigree.