GTG & Overton - 1811 Capped Bust 50c

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by CircCam, Nov 16, 2019.

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Guess the Grade & (Overton in Comments)

  1. F15

  2. VF20

  3. VF25

  4. VF30

  5. VF35

  6. XF40

  7. XF45

  8. AU50

  9. AU53

  10. AU55

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  1. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

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    CircCam, Nov 16, 2019
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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I'm at vf 20
     
    Paddy54, Nov 16, 2019
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  4. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I'll go with VF25.
     
    longshot, Nov 16, 2019
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I'm on the fence between VF20 and -25, but voted 20 to err on the side of conservatism.

    Regardless of the technical grade, the toning makes that a very handsome coin indeed.
     
    lordmarcovan, Nov 16, 2019
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Oh, I just noticed this is a @CircCam post.

    Small wonder it's a coin with eye appeal far exceeding the grade. ;)
     
    lordmarcovan, Nov 16, 2019
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  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    XF40 and a large 8... O-103a off the top of my head. Y'all aren't taking strike into consideration. These were struck very early on using a fairly primitive method.
     
    C-B-D, Nov 16, 2019
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Wondered about that. Noticed Liberty's hair was pretty smushy. Still wouldn't have gone much over 25 in my estimation, though.

    I'm utterly clueless on Overton varieties, as was famously demonstrated when I was the cherrypick-ee in the 1806 O-129 discovery.
     
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  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I need practice at grading US coins since I'm gearing up to sell the remaining dregs of my family's hoard (mainly junk silver... nothing as interesting as the OP coin) so I'll take a stab at it :). Using PCGS's Photograde pictures, it looks like a VF25 to me.
     
    TIF, Nov 16, 2019
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I was startled to see a TIF appearance in a US coin thread.
     
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  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Surprise!! :D

    I lurk all over the forum :)

    Beautiful coin, @CircCam.

    It will be interesting to see the TPG grade of this coin. I suspect I tend to grossly overgrade my family's junk silver and undergrade everyone else's coins :D.
     
    TIF, Nov 16, 2019
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  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    And that’s why I grade these from the right wing (eagle’s left wing). That’s where the strike was almost always full. I see a significant amount of wear there.

    These early halves can have residual luster down to F levels.

    I’m at VF-30 for those two reasons
     
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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I've heard it said that ownership adds an average of 1.5 points to a coin's grade. ;)
     
    lordmarcovan, Nov 16, 2019
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  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I too use the wing as a focal point to determine grade on bust coinage.
     
    Paddy54, Nov 16, 2019
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  15. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Taking strike into account, I think this is a VF-30. I would not be surprised by 35, but I don't think it makes 40. The little traces of luster help make this a very eye appealing coin!
     
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  16. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    As mentioned, O103a, R.3
    Die crack touching the second 1 in date.
    Clashing on both sides, cool coin.
     
    longshot, Nov 16, 2019
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  17. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    I'll say VF35
     
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  18. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    35 Details
     
    chascat, Nov 16, 2019
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  19. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Could you explain why you give this coin a details grade?
     
    physics-fan3.14, Nov 16, 2019
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  20. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Looks like cleaned or altered surfaces in the fields. I would expect to see a darker and more even patina on a VF example. I think it's a very attractive coin.
     
    chascat, Nov 16, 2019
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  21. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Strong VF, but not XF - considering the weak strike.
     
    micbraun, Nov 16, 2019
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