GTG Olathe (NY Bank) hoard Treasury bag 1885p morgan

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  1. ddddd

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    The Olathe and New York Bank were two different hoards.

    The New York Bank hoard was more recent (2018)...per Coin World:

    "A hoard of 16,000 Morgan dollars stored in canvas bags in a New York City bank vault since their purchase in 1964 from the Treasury Department stockpile will be placed on the market after all are graded and slabbed by Numismatic Guaranty Corp........... the son and daughter of the man who originally purchased the coins more than 50 years ago no longer wanted to continue paying the $800 annual rental fee for the roughly 3-foot by 3-foot by 4-foot safe-deposit box that houses the silver dollars........Garrett said the heirs do not want to be identified but just want to dispose of the hoard. Garrett said the heirs’ father worked in the financial district in lower Manhattan"

    https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/silver-dollar-hoard-from-1960s-government-sale.html

    The Olathe Hoard was a little earlier (2009)....per Conder:

    "The Olathe Dollar Hoard was a hoard of 25 original bags of dollars found in a bank in Kansas in 2009. Most likely acquired from the Treasury disbursal from the early 1960's."

    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=108634
     
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  3. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    You're right it was in Kansas that article i shared was for a different one.
     
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  4. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Were there any rare or semi-scarce Morgans in either the Olathe or NY Bank Hoards ?
     
  5. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I'm pretty sure they were all common dates
     
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  6. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    And I am now 98% positive she is a Vam 14a a sweet lil R-5 according to VAMWorld :D Won't be 100% until she's in hand but only 1 thing i can't see clearly enough in the pic's I have, but I see a shadow of it in these pics as well as all of the other indicators so I'm pretty sure I got it right :D
     
  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It's mostly common dates from what I have seen. There are some high grades though.

    Here is an excerpt from NGC about the NY Bank Hoard:

    "The remarkably well-preserved hoard boasts a number of high grade pieces, including 118 that graded NGC MS 67.

    Each canvas US Treasury bag in the New York Bank Hoard contained 1,000 Uncirculated Morgan Dollars of the same date and mintmark combination. Eleven different issues were represented: the 1878-S (one bag), the 1880-S (two bags), the 1881-S (one bag), the 1883-O (one bag), the 1884-O (one bag), the 1885 (one bag), the 1885-O (two bags), the 1886 (one bag), the 1887 (four bags), the 1888 (one bag) and the 1889 (one bag)."

    https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/6702/
     
  8. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Ok here she is in all here glory.. sellers pics were much closer to in hand then NGCs...
    I quite happy for the price and pedigree :D
    20221119_223137.jpg 20221119_223302.jpg 20221119_223330.jpg
     
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  9. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Some people think including descriptives like hoards is nothing more than a marketing gimmick. At time it tends to be a bit made-up, but legit hoards are part of the storytelling and history behind our coins.

    Congrats on your nice coin ! :cigar:
     
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  10. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    olathe.jpg 1887 ob.jpg 1887 rev.jpg
    I'm a little pumped right now. Just snagged this one from auction online at a decent price. I was searching Olathe Hoard and found this thread. I do believe I see a well defined die crack, so I'll be searching VAM World to identify it.
     
  11. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Nice pickup... I've got a lil side collection of "hoard" labels.. olathe, las vegas, stacks and bowers w57th and I include my shipwreck coins with them (atocha and el cazador at moment) but always on the lookout for more. As goldfinger said I like the added history/pedigree such a label adds :D
     
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    That one is real nice and frosty Barney.
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Just wondering how many folks right now think this is a New GTG.
     
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  14. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    You saying NGC gets no respect? :D:p;)
     
  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Just that this thread is a year and a half old.
     
  16. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I just picked it to post in because of the Olathe Hoard, which I'd never heard of before.:D
     
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