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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2025767, member: 112"]I have always found the world of collecting errors a bit strange. To me, collecting mistakes just isn't appealing. But to others it is so more power to them if that's what rings their bells. And to a point, I can even understand grading them.</p><p><br /></p><p>If memory serves ten or twelve years there was an article in Coin World where the subject of grading errors was discussed. The same kind of question was asked, how do you grade these ? And there was input from the TPGs. Back then they were talking about coins like this one - </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://acimg.auctivacommerce.com/imgdata/0/1/2/2/5/5/webimg/7005448.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>- which I found on the web here - <a href="http://errorcoins.auctivacommerce.com/NGC-MS65-Double-Struck-Both-Off-Center-Nickel-Mint-Error-Fantastic-Eye-Appeal-P3105140.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://errorcoins.auctivacommerce.com/NGC-MS65-Double-Struck-Both-Off-Center-Nickel-Mint-Error-Fantastic-Eye-Appeal-P3105140.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://errorcoins.auctivacommerce.com/NGC-MS65-Double-Struck-Both-Off-Center-Nickel-Mint-Error-Fantastic-Eye-Appeal-P3105140.aspx</a></p><p><br /></p><p>It was said that to grade these they judged the part of the coin that was actually struck. That much I can understand, it makes sense. </p><p><br /></p><p>But then they began to go a little further and they were grading blank planchets like those found here - <a href="http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page21.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page21.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page21.html</a> - scroll down a bit to see the examples.</p><p><br /></p><p>I mean, I can understand putting the blanks in a slab and certifying them as being genuine blank planchets, but actually grading them ? How do you grade a planchet that has never even been struck ? And if you look at that link above you'll see examples of circulated and MS. </p><p><br /></p><p>Yeah, I know, you can say that the circulated planchet somehow was actually used in circulation and the other one wasn't. But how can you tell ? I mean there is no luster to judge wear because there can be no luster. Luster is only created when the planchet is struck, so if it isn't struck, it can't have any. And breaks in the luster is how you judge wear. And there are no high points because there is nothing - it's a blank. So that, that I have a bit of trouble wrapping my head around.</p><p><br /></p><p>And then they started slabbing these - </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://acimg.auctivacommerce.com/imgdata/0/1/2/2/5/5/webimg/6824550.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.coins-n-medals.com/Exhibits/Waffles/SusanBAnthony.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now granted, they didn't put a numerical grade on them. I think they realized that would be going just a bit too far. But they do call them uncirculated. What I want to see is one of these that isn't <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now, regarding the piece of scrap that got struck, they call it a fragment but that's what it is, a piece of scrap from planchet strip that managed to get into the feeder, how they could grade that, is beyond me. </p><p><br /></p><p>Yeah I know they do it, that is certainly not the only one. And again, I can understand putting in a slab. The TPGs will give their customers what they want and some collectors obviously do want them. And like I said above, more power to them if that's what they like. But grading them ? Sorry, that I just don't understand.</p><p><br /></p><p>And no, I can't even apply the thinking that is applied when grading an off-center strike. With those at least you do have a partial coin that you can look at and actually grade. But grading something like this ? No, I can't even begin to imagine the thought process for that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2025767, member: 112"]I have always found the world of collecting errors a bit strange. To me, collecting mistakes just isn't appealing. But to others it is so more power to them if that's what rings their bells. And to a point, I can even understand grading them. If memory serves ten or twelve years there was an article in Coin World where the subject of grading errors was discussed. The same kind of question was asked, how do you grade these ? And there was input from the TPGs. Back then they were talking about coins like this one - [IMG]http://acimg.auctivacommerce.com/imgdata/0/1/2/2/5/5/webimg/7005448.jpg[/IMG] - which I found on the web here - [url]http://errorcoins.auctivacommerce.com/NGC-MS65-Double-Struck-Both-Off-Center-Nickel-Mint-Error-Fantastic-Eye-Appeal-P3105140.aspx[/url] It was said that to grade these they judged the part of the coin that was actually struck. That much I can understand, it makes sense. But then they began to go a little further and they were grading blank planchets like those found here - [url]http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page21.html[/url] - scroll down a bit to see the examples. I mean, I can understand putting the blanks in a slab and certifying them as being genuine blank planchets, but actually grading them ? How do you grade a planchet that has never even been struck ? And if you look at that link above you'll see examples of circulated and MS. Yeah, I know, you can say that the circulated planchet somehow was actually used in circulation and the other one wasn't. But how can you tell ? I mean there is no luster to judge wear because there can be no luster. Luster is only created when the planchet is struck, so if it isn't struck, it can't have any. And breaks in the luster is how you judge wear. And there are no high points because there is nothing - it's a blank. So that, that I have a bit of trouble wrapping my head around. And then they started slabbing these - [IMG]http://acimg.auctivacommerce.com/imgdata/0/1/2/2/5/5/webimg/6824550.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.coins-n-medals.com/Exhibits/Waffles/SusanBAnthony.jpg[/IMG] Now granted, they didn't put a numerical grade on them. I think they realized that would be going just a bit too far. But they do call them uncirculated. What I want to see is one of these that isn't :rolleyes: Now, regarding the piece of scrap that got struck, they call it a fragment but that's what it is, a piece of scrap from planchet strip that managed to get into the feeder, how they could grade that, is beyond me. Yeah I know they do it, that is certainly not the only one. And again, I can understand putting in a slab. The TPGs will give their customers what they want and some collectors obviously do want them. And like I said above, more power to them if that's what they like. But grading them ? Sorry, that I just don't understand. And no, I can't even apply the thinking that is applied when grading an off-center strike. With those at least you do have a partial coin that you can look at and actually grade. But grading something like this ? No, I can't even begin to imagine the thought process for that.[/QUOTE]
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