GTG Capped Bust Halves

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by K2Coins, Feb 28, 2016.

  1. K2Coins

    K2Coins GO GATORS

    Thought I'd try something new. Below are two coins the first one is a 1812 capped bust half graded by PCGS, the next coin is a raw 1824/4 capped bust half that I'm considering sending in to get graded, GTG on both! (I'm interested to see the results after compairing the two).
    1812obv.png 1812rev.png
    1824.png
    1824r.png
     
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  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    35 and 45
     
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  5. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    45 and 53 .
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    The 1812 is very dark, hard to see.

    Guess= 45

    the other isn't slabbed, so are we guessing your grade?


    Then 45, possible 50
     
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  7. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    1812 = VF30 or VF-DET (?)
    1824/4 = PCGS XF40, NGC XF45
    Although I generally prefer NGC's grading standards, I think PCGS tends to be stricter with early half dollars
     
  8. medjoy

    medjoy Active Member

    1812 40
    1824 45
     
  9. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    1812 - 40
    1824 - 50
     
  10. K2Coins

    K2Coins GO GATORS

    I am just wondering what you guys think it might grade and if it would be worth it to send it in...!
     
  11. murty

    murty Junior Member

    1812 - 45
    1824 - 55
     
  12. K2Coins

    K2Coins GO GATORS

    The 1812 was graded XF45, I am hoping that the 1824/4 could push a AU53 or AU55 if I send it to NGC, but when comparing it to this 1812 it looks like it would at least get an AU50
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  13. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Sorry, but the 1812 seems to be overgraded... too much wear on Liberty's hair and face... also the eagle's head and talons are heavily worn. Not a 45 in my book. I like the 1824 though and can see it in an AU holder.
     
  14. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    We have very different definitions of heavily
     
  15. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1456769327.562010.jpg
    I know that's a different date... but hair and face details appear to be much stronger on their reference coin.
     
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  16. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I was more referring to calling the eagle heavily worn, but you really can't compare different CBH dates to each other either. the 1812 looks like a pretty standard earlier XF with how they grade them
     
  17. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I agree the rev looks better than the obv and I should have had a closer look at the eagle before guessing the grade. If it was an 183x they would probably have assigned a lower grade.
     
  18. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I was at 40 on the first. I'm thinking 53 on the raw
     
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  19. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Remember that they used the dies till the cracked , so it is most likely a weak strike . I think they got it right . But that's grading from a pic .
     
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  20. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Certainly could have ended up as a 40/35 on a late date one, but at least some of that "wear" is more than likely from a weak strike
     
  21. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    If all 45 Busties looked like this , I'd get all I could afford . That's why I think it's more important to read the whole coin and use the written description more than their reference pics .
     
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