GTG 44 Walker Half

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What did ANACS grade this?

  1. AU58

    4 vote(s)
    17.4%
  2. MS61

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  3. MS62

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  4. MS63

    6 vote(s)
    26.1%
  5. MS64

    9 vote(s)
    39.1%
  6. MS65

    2 vote(s)
    8.7%
  7. MS66

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Key dates are, obviously, the toughest and most expensive dates in a particular series.

    A semi-key date is one that’s definitely rarer and/or more valuable than the common dates, but not necessarily at the top of the list of rarities for that particular series.

    In some series you might have maybe one or two key dates at the very top rung in terms of value, then behind those, two or three or however many semi-keys, and then all the rest.

    The terminology is rather loose, and eBay sellers abuse the heck out of it, often even referring to common dates as semi-keys. This is not the case. A semi-key must clearly rise above the rest in terms of value.

    Case in point: @Pickin and Grinin's 1944 Walking Liberty half is a common date. In MS65, according to Numismedia, it is a $119 coin.

    In MS65, also according to Numismedia, my 1938-D, a semi-key date, is worth $1,280. (PCGS says $1,600. I actually have $1,500 in it.) That's because of its basic scarcity due to the lower mintage. But it is not especially rare in Mint State. There are some earlier Walking Liberty halves that are common in lower grades but worth even more than my coin in MS65 because of their rarity in Mint State. (Those are condition rarities.)
     
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  3. dimeguy

    dimeguy Dime Enthusiast

    I voted 64. These are significantly difficult to have a fully detailed leg on Liberty or the eagle. Luster looks great, but the field marks on the R in the obverse and the fact that all the lines are present, but legs are flat, I think they may have brought it down to a 64. Great coin though!
     
  4. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    Your poll asks "what did ANACS grade this", so I voted 63. What do I grade it? 65
     
  5. EdGs

    EdGs Active Member

    I'm in at 64
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I will give the reveal and slab photo this evening.
     
  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Allright here it is. I would like all my 63's to look like this.
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    PS 6 of you voted 63' Well done!
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

  10. dimeguy

    dimeguy Dime Enthusiast

    A 63?! Blast! Foiled again!
     
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  11. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    All of the low all-number slabs I have, do have the barcode
    • 0-block: 75, 127, 761, 1422, 1424
    • 7-block: 70195, 70395, 77384
    • 15-block: 150420, 152357 (sharpied Sample), 155894, 158722
    • 21-block: 215114
    Our assumption is that they started using the all numeric when (Amos ownership) stopped the XX####, and they just filled in the blocks that weren't used for the conversions.
     
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thanks Burton, what
    gen is this then? I thought I read that the serial numbers without bar code went up to 300,000 or so with a few outliers around 250,000 or so. I thought I read something wrong. Comprehension isn't always my best suit.
     
  13. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    You have it backwards... there is a block around 300,000 which doesn't have the bar code.

    But the defining characteristics of the change over from XX#### to all numeric is the type 1 bar code.
     
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  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thanks
     
  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I see stuff too. Gave it a hopefully 61
     
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  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Good to see Ya Cheech!
     
  17. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    One thing I learned 20 something years ago was on the shopping network (Coin Channel) that never hit home until a couple of years ago. What was that guy's name? Rick? He could sell snowcones to Eskimos, but I digress. There is mint and year rarity and then there is conditional rarity. It's huge in the Morgan series. I never got that until I started collecting a set, wanting the best examples I could afford. The 1901 P is really starting to piss me off. :muted:
     
  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Found a 1903S it just has that look. I won't look at it. If it was an 04S I would have already pulled the trigger.
     
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  19. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I'm glad Cheech doesn't work at ANACS as a grader. If he did, I'd have no uncirculated coins. :D
     
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  20. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Both Cheech and Randy come from the era of wear is wear, I like it. I think that that is the kind of discretion one should have when buying. I certainly do.
     
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