GTG 25 D Lincoln

62 cuz i think something may be hidden on the reverse

 

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MS-64RB

 

That isn't a hit, If you look a little closer the lower letters of luri in pluribus are also weak. The mint at this time did not care about the quality of the cents being produced and most are undefined and very weak.

 

Thanks, it changes the color a bit but definitely brightened it up.

 

63BN

 

Thanks. Makes sense. I'll go 65 shinney

 

Must be a tough coin to photograph! The last in-slab picture is probably your best one because the lighting. Your other pictures gave me the idea that the light was totally cutting through the patina. While I still can't make out any cartwheel spokes, the luster and red is more apparent. NICE COIN in a very tough issue!

 

Nice coin. I wonder if it grew the spots in the holder.

 

Yeah, under magnification they are much worse than they appear in hand. It is a deep red Brown example, I didn't question the designation. The coin drew me in.

 

I thought I would pass on to @Insider., see the void weakening the tops of O and N and the N in cent. What do you see?

 

Looks much better in the holder.

 

Points for Stevearino and Ed Wood School of Grading.

 

Very common on Lincoln cents, especially on the "O." These days USUALLY carbon spots will keep a coin out of MS-65. Our finalizer would probably assign the same grade as PCGS. I'm with the 63 RB guys.

 

Actually, for the issue, that thing is hammered. Denver was way over-using their dies. Finding examples with a well struck reverse is difficult, when you do, they're typically full brown.

Just for fun, I'll post this puppy again because it's probably my favorite coin. It's been the subject of many discussions and I've had a few top-level people render opinions. Chuck Daughtrey and Bob Piazza graded it 62RB. What do you all think? It's the PRIME example of VLDS. An amazing survivor - that probably only exists today because it's "weird looking".

 

This other one in my collection shows the reverse die wearing. It's still pretty decent for the issue though - these are tough with any original red.

 

If I saw that coin I would have to buy it also,
It's a very cool die state, and strike. I like the lamination.

 

If I had not seen the last digit in the date I would have thought 1922.

 

Have you ever thought of using Verdi-Care on both of them? Conservation with something else should make the top coin "Pop."