GTG - 1974 S Silver Eisenhower Dollar

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  1. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    What do you think the grade is. I'm particularly interested in @19Lyds's assessment of the coin.

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  3. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    I never collected Ike Dollars but that one is really nice looking!
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Too bad about that eye. 63?
     
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  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I'd call it 65, probably.

    The color looks weird though. It's 50/50 whether I'd straight grade it or call it UNC details, Questionable Color.
     
  6. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    what about the color bothers you?
     
  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    1. The colors themselves (that shade of blue, that shade of maroon, and that shade of yellow) seem wrong. They are uncommon colors, especially in this combination.

    2. The transition between the maroon and yellow/gold is abrupt - it should be a smooth transition, especially between such drastically different colors.

    3. There is a complete lack of elevation chromatics. While not a sure sign in itself, when combined with the strange colors, it is a red flag.

    4. The fact that the obverse and reverse have matching colors lends credibility, possibly from an album or roll.

    It is in a PCGS holder, so I'm really curious to see what they said. The TPGs will often slab toned Ikes that I strongly disagree with (for example, the entire Peacock horde).
     
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  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    You won't have a issue with a straight grade and just encase nobody realizes, this is a BS strike .

    65 on a good day, but most days a 64 ....
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    It's kind of ironic that you say yellow seems wrong, I just got an 1976 mint set and the quarter , half and Ike dollar are all toned yellow.
    I will image them sometime this weekend and post.
    The Denver coins are not toned, but the Philly coins are.
     
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  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    You talkin 'bull' Rick? devil.gif
     
  11. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    What about the eye?

    If you mean this:

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    That's a part of the design.
     
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  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    A golden yellow by itself is not a problem. It is fairly common to see mint set coins toned that way. It is the combination of that yellow with that maroon and that blue that bothers me.
     
  13. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I thought there was a gash by his eyebrow, but apparently that is natural. So I will guess 65.
     
  15. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    Well, i'm afraid Mr. Poe got it right.

    I, for one disagree, with the assessment. I't silver and I would bet dollars to donuts the yellow was there when it was removed form a mint set and placed in an album. I believe the darker outer ring formed on top of the yellow already there, from album toning.

    This is a solid statement and was part of my decision process. Its on both sides, one weaker than the other, just like its been in an album for 20 years. I think its natural.

    But, meh, what I can I say, I don't have the experience some do nor am I a physicist :rolleyes:

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  16. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Are those split serifs on IGWT?
     
  17. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I'm sure it is, Peg Leg too ( R ) ..
     
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  18. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    Not that I can tell

    And actually, from the pics, I believe the transition that Jason talks about isn't as abrupt as it look in a zoomed out pic. I see a somewhat gradual and imperfect transitions.

    FWW I love this coin, had to have it. I just looks cool.

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  19. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Damn! Give it a couple of years and submit it again.............
     
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  20. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    This is a good example where the grader didn't care about getting the grade right as much as they cared about covering their/companys arse.
     
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  21. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    That sure is a pretty Ike. I like the toning.

    If this coin is for your collection, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
     
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